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Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home dir

Postby white_tee_shirt » 2018-02-08 17:18

Hi users,
I never understood this. I have come back to Debian after many years (switched to Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, Kali, KDE and now back to Deb).
These are instructions for installing Firefox directly from Mozilla's website:

    Download Firefox from the Firefox download page to your home directory.
    Note: If you want to have a choice of the language and operating system for your Firefox installation, please visit the Systems & Languages download page instead.
    Open a Terminal and go to your home directory: cd ~
    Extract the contents of the downloaded file: tar xjf firefox-*.tar.bz2
    Close Firefox if it's open.
    To start Firefox, run the firefox script in the firefox folder: ~/firefox/firefox

Why are their instructions like this? What use does it have in home directory?
If you install a fresh installation of Debian 9, you don't get FF in home Dir., and common sense tells me to upgrade/install where the existing copy is. How I have two versions of Firefox on my station at two different locations.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby debiman » 2018-02-08 18:18

there's also this:
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apt install firefox-esr


edit:
nobody forces you to keep two versions.
if you like the shiny new ff, just uninstall the sturdy ff-esr.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby pawRoot » 2018-02-08 18:26

doesn't have to be in home directory

https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby stevepusser » 2018-02-08 21:20

If it's in your home folder, it's easier for their automatic update feature to work.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby Bulkley » 2018-02-08 22:24

Those instructions allow a user to download and run FF in his/her own account without having to call the IT guy. It is secure because it doesn't mess up anything that requires root permission. It is a nice way to try out different browsers. The down side is that whomever is acting as the IT guy may want the software installed properly so that all users can access.

There is definitely a choice involved. I have eight browsers (because I like to try different ones) of which only three run in user space.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby white_tee_shirt » 2018-02-08 22:28

edit:
nobody forces you to keep two versions.
if you like the shiny new ff, just un-install the sturdy ff-esr.


I had no choice but update to a newer version because my Add-on (extension?) requires a newer version.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby white_tee_shirt » 2018-02-08 23:27

Bulkley wrote:Those instructions allow a user to download and run FF in his/her own account without having to call the IT guy. It is secure because it doesn't mess up anything that requires root permission. It is a nice way to try out different browsers. The down side is that whomever is acting as the IT guy may want the software installed properly so that all users can access.

There is definitely a choice involved. I have eight browsers (because I like to try different ones) of which only three run in user space.

This is a good answer I can live with and adjust my perspective. Thanks!
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2018-02-09 01:35

white_tee_shirt wrote:I had no choice but update to a newer version because my Add-on (extension?) requires a newer version.

You could choose to use a different (or no) 'extension'. :D
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby white_tee_shirt » 2018-02-09 07:52

Bulkley wrote:Those instructions allow a user to download and run FF in his/her own account without having to call the IT guy. It is secure because it doesn't mess up anything that requires root permission.

But it now does mess up my FF icon's though.
I lost the nice FF icons and for my latest version in ~/Downloads, the binaries have weird generic icons =(
And the shortcut of the application that I dragged and copied to the Desktop won't launch FF either.
See my screenshot
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby acewiza » 2018-02-09 16:19

I normally put anything that doesn't already know where it wants to live in /opt.
Nobody would ever ask questions If everyone possessed encyclopedic knowledge of the man pages.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby stevepusser » 2018-02-09 20:38

That "firefox" shortcut is just a text .desktop file. You have to open it with a text editor and edit the Exec= line to where Firefox is living now (probably /home/<username>/Downloads/firefox/firefox) and also the Icon= line to whatever icon file you want to use. Your downloaded Firefox has some .png files you can use it in someplace, or just download one of your own.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby sgage » 2018-02-09 21:03

You can put it wherever you want. I have always put it in /opt. And the auto-update feature works fine.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby stevepusser » 2018-02-09 23:36

sgage wrote:You can put it wherever you want. I have always put it in /opt. And the auto-update feature works fine.


That is not possible unless you change the permissions on the /opt/firefox folder or are insane enough to run the browser as root.
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby white_tee_shirt » 2018-02-10 01:35

stevepusser wrote:
sgage wrote:That is not possible unless you change the permissions on the /opt/firefox folder or are insane enough to run the browser as root.

Exactly
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Re: Why does Mozilla want us to install Firefox to our home

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2018-02-10 01:43

Which is why ~/ is the place for "user managed software".

Make a ~/bin dir and put them there ... or whatever suits.
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