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Flatpak problem

Postby faziopesce » 2018-06-11 12:06

I installed flatpak added repo but when i install a package this error pop-up. I'm internet connected.Image
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-06-11 12:19

Use code tags and post only outputs of commands, screenshots are next to useless.
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Have you tried again? You also have the options of appimage, try that if flatpak doesn't work.
BTW, that KDE runtime is huge, 310+ MB...
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Flatpak problem

Postby faziopesce » 2018-06-11 12:30

Now I'm not able to try but I've tested android studio and the error has exactly the same output.
After downloading all delta parts, flatpak tells me that there is a connection problem.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-06-11 13:02

Try using the latest version from stretch-backports. Uninstall your current flatpak, add stretch-backports repo, install flatpak from it and then try again.
https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
There might be a problem with the old version, but I haven't tested it.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby golinux » 2018-06-11 15:04

Flatpaks ARE the problem . . .
May the FORK be with you!
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby arochester » 2018-06-11 16:47

@golonux Specific evidence, please?
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby stevepusser » 2018-06-11 17:49

My advice would be to resort to these bloated universal packages only if you exhaust the possiblity of a native backport...

https://repology.org/metapackage/keepassxc/versions

Hmm, Debian and thus MX 17 backports have fallen a couple releases behind. Let me see I I can update it for MX and my OBS backports. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... /keepassxc
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby stevepusser » 2018-06-11 18:27

2.3.3 backports were successful for Jessie and Stretch on the OBS, and I'll see about adding Buster. A Debian Buster version or official backport will upgrade over mine if it ever comes down the pipe.

So it's your choice, a broken 300+ MB flatpak, or a few MB of backports done right.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby golinux » 2018-06-11 19:51

arochester wrote:@golinux Specific evidence, please?
@stevepusser said it for me:
So it's your choice, a broken 300+ MB flatpak, or a few MB of backports done right.
The way that's sold as "easy" to the clueless is often neither easy, efficient or reliable. And likely to have other undesirable, unadvertised "features" included.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby sunrat » 2018-06-12 00:26

golinux wrote:Flatpaks ARE the problem . . .

Agreed. Why build packages that don't use available native libraries?
Just from a size aspect, I installed telegram-desktop from Debian repo yesterday. It used ~28MB of space. The equivalent flatpak is about 300MB!
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-06-12 05:10

sunrat wrote:Why build packages that don't use available native libraries?

I want the latest Blender version[1] for my Debian stable system but it won't backport and I'm not compiling it on an X201 but I do have the disk space to spare for a flatpak so it makes sense for me :)

[1] They have a new principled BSDF for their Cycles renderer that emulates Disney's ubershader.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby debiman » 2018-06-12 05:55

flatpaks (and whatever other container thingymajicks exist) are a problem if they create the illusion that they are easier and thus better than installing normal apps.
soon people will choose to install everything through flatpaks, and even the 1TB root partition is filled up in no time... not to speak of all the specific problems these containers bring with them.
especially if people don't even realise that what they install is something fundamentally different than if installing from the repos.
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Re: Flatpak problem

Postby bester69 » 2018-06-15 23:00

debiman wrote:flatpaks (and whatever other container thingymajicks exist) are a problem if they create the illusion that they are easier and thus better than installing normal apps.
soon people will choose to install everything through flatpaks, and even the 1TB root partition is filled up in no time... not to speak of all the specific problems these containers bring with them.
especially if people don't even realise that what they install is something fundamentally different than if installing from the repos.


flatpak and Appimage are great (i dont like snap), There is not such a drama, they're around 250-450MB each application at first, until they start to sharing same frameworks, then they fill the same size as the regular application.
For example, flatpak is great for last video edition apps, they have most of them (kdenlive, pitivi, openshot, shotcut, avidemux, etc),, and they offer you last realised, and result that version is less buggy than what Stretch ships on. Ive seen it, kdenlive , others stretch apps crashing more often than flatpak's later versions.

Im already accepted flatpak as part of my system, Thanks to flatpak i dont see any need to use debian testing, when you can have available that last software now in debian stable.
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