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d-9 boots but fails reboot
d-9 boots but fails reboot
Hi
I set up a gigabyte j1900n-d3v mother board with debian 9 to run linuxcnc for a mill. It boots up fine but when I select reboot it shows the gigabit splash then the gurb page but after that it comes to a blinking dash in the upper left corner and never starts?
I have no idea even what to look at?? anyone have a hint?
Thanks
Jim
I set up a gigabyte j1900n-d3v mother board with debian 9 to run linuxcnc for a mill. It boots up fine but when I select reboot it shows the gigabit splash then the gurb page but after that it comes to a blinking dash in the upper left corner and never starts?
I have no idea even what to look at?? anyone have a hint?
Thanks
Jim
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Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
You have the same situation as this poster and I put the same questions to you:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=680942#p680942
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=680942#p680942
deadbang
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
Hey
I tried rebooting with systemd.unit=multi-user.target and nomodeset both together and separately and in all cases it comes to the same place, black screen blinking cursor upper left.
right after coming out of editing the grub line there is a flashed message ramdisk, intrad. Or something close on two lines. These are the same lines seen during a normal boot, just after that a message about "failed to connect to lmvetab... scanning instead" appears twice and then "/dev/mapper/ant...." . These appear when the computer boots up normally but it stalls before these during reboot.
on board graphics processor:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0e)
driver: AIGLX: Loaded and initialized i965
Can you reproduce this with Debian stable? Not sure how I could test this? dual-boot? what is debian stable?
Thanks
Jim
I tried rebooting with systemd.unit=multi-user.target and nomodeset both together and separately and in all cases it comes to the same place, black screen blinking cursor upper left.
right after coming out of editing the grub line there is a flashed message ramdisk, intrad. Or something close on two lines. These are the same lines seen during a normal boot, just after that a message about "failed to connect to lmvetab... scanning instead" appears twice and then "/dev/mapper/ant...." . These appear when the computer boots up normally but it stalls before these during reboot.
on board graphics processor:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0e)
driver: AIGLX: Loaded and initialized i965
Can you reproduce this with Debian stable? Not sure how I could test this? dual-boot? what is debian stable?
Thanks
Jim
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Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
That question doesn't actually apply to you, you are already running Debian stable.jamby wrote:Can you reproduce this with Debian stable? Not sure how I could test this? dual-boot? what is debian stable?
So the machine boots successfully from cold but fails to reboot?jamby wrote:It boots up fine but when I select reboot [...]
deadbang
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
"So the machine boots successfully from cold but fails to reboot?"
Correct.
Thanks
Jim
Correct.
Thanks
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
It's an odd problem, but I'd probably look at something added to d-9 that is not from the debian repo? Can you reproduce it with other methods of rebooting? ctrl-alt-delete from a tty? systemctl reboot?jamby wrote:Hi
I set up a gigabyte j1900n-d3v mother board with debian 9 to run linuxcnc for a mill. It boots up fine but when I select reboot it shows the gigabit splash then the gurb page but after that it comes to a blinking dash in the upper left corner and never starts?
I have no idea even what to look at?? anyone have a hint?
Thanks
Jim
Maybe you should describe a little what you mean by, "... I set up a gigabyte j1900n-d3v mother board with debian 9 to run linuxcnc..."
Did you do it like this? if you did, where are the instructions you followed for stretch? Mixing wheezy and stretch would not be good.
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getti ... uxcnc.html
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Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
I followed the examples here and on the following posts and have debian 9 and linuxcnc.
Its a D9 install with a rtai
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing ... n-debian-9
heres my /etc/apt/sources.list
Jim
Its a D9 install with a rtai
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing ... n-debian-9
heres my /etc/apt/sources.list
uname -a#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.5.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20180714-10:25]/ stretch contrib main non-free
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.5.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20180714-10:25]/ stretch contrib main non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-free
# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
ThanksLinux ant 4.9.0-8-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u4 (2018-08-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
I think the added source may have b0rked your system...
Perhaps ask on the LinuxCNC forums?
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grep -v '^#\|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
deadbang
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
so linuxcnc is a software you added to a standard debian install? but it is not in the repos, so you added more sources.
and you really should look at the logs.
immediately after a failed reboot, and a succesful cold boot:
but since i'm not 100% sure about the offset, probably best to just sift through all of it:
and look at the last pages (by date).
btw, i'm not promising i will look through all of it. please at least try to make some sense of it yourself.
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cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
and you really should look at the logs.
immediately after a failed reboot, and a succesful cold boot:
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journalctl -1
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journalctl
btw, i'm not promising i will look through all of it. please at least try to make some sense of it yourself.
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
Head
I will be able to look through the journalctl -l data later today when I return home as I have to leave now for the golf course.
Thanks both of you
Jim
Debianmangrep -v '^#\|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib
grep: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*: No such file or directory
I have rebooted the computer through "System/Shut Down/Restart" and through ssh sudo shutdown -r 0. The result is the same each time, system hangs. I will lookup how to use systemctl.cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
cat: '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*': No such file or directory
I will be able to look through the journalctl -l data later today when I return home as I have to leave now for the golf course.
Thanks both of you
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
Well maybe I need to work on this more than my golf game.
Here's the output of the sudo journalctl -l
http://lightbythesea.com/debian/journal.dat
This was run minutes after a unsuccessful reboot.
I tried comparing it to the output after a normal shutdown cold boot and didn't find anything. But I have no idea what I am looking for.
Jim
Here's the output of the sudo journalctl -l
http://lightbythesea.com/debian/journal.dat
This was run minutes after a unsuccessful reboot.
I tried comparing it to the output after a normal shutdown cold boot and didn't find anything. But I have no idea what I am looking for.
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
Ouch.... while testing the reboot.. suddenly... it was working for about 4 reboots in a row of all kinds systemctl reboot, shutdown -r 0, or thru the gui , and thru ssh. It all worked..... and then it didn't.
Now If I could only remember the sequence of how I got there?
Is it possible that during a reboot some parts of the system are suppose to remain running (networking etc.) that are being shutdown thus not enabling a restart?? Yeah I didn't think so.
Thanks
Jim
Now If I could only remember the sequence of how I got there?
Is it possible that during a reboot some parts of the system are suppose to remain running (networking etc.) that are being shutdown thus not enabling a restart?? Yeah I didn't think so.
Thanks
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
wild guess, some acpi issue.
hard to troubleshoot if "it fixed itself".
btw, i was asking for journalctl -1 (that's 'one', not 'ell'), and i was asking you to at least make an effort to filter out the relevant parts.
this sort of output causes me headaches just like it does you; 7 years of Linux experience have not changed that.
hard to troubleshoot if "it fixed itself".
btw, i was asking for journalctl -1 (that's 'one', not 'ell'), and i was asking you to at least make an effort to filter out the relevant parts.
this sort of output causes me headaches just like it does you; 7 years of Linux experience have not changed that.
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
debman
sudo journalctl -1
journalctl: invalid option -- '1'
Sorry about that
Jim
sudo journalctl -1
journalctl: invalid option -- '1'
Sorry about that
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
debiman
1.
I got output using sudo journalctl -b -0 using -1 or -2 results in a message " Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found"
I went through the output and couldn't find anything that when googled looked like a problem.
2.
I loaded debian 9 and linuxcnc onto a standard WD hard drive and booted the computer with that h-drive to compare problems. The WD h-drive is much slower than the PYN SSD drive all other information was collected from. The WD failed only once where it was identical to the issue with the SSD, blank screen blinking cursor - hung. Twice it failed on boot entering a EFI shell. Other that those three exceptions it booted into debian 9 on reboot fine. I would like to believe this indicates the problem is not with the motherboard.
I have also booted the WD on a dell precision 390 and it's journalctl output is very close to the SSD on the gigabyte mb.
3.
When the gigabite/SSD hangs on reboot (not cold start) nothing from that time is written into the journalctl or syslog files. During the reboot process the gigibyte splash appears then the grub menu and the messages "Loading Linux 4.9.0-8-rt-amd64" and "Loading initial ramdisk" then everything halts with the screen hung with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner. Ctl-Alt-Del will not recover the system, holding the computer start button down long enough will kill the computer, the other way is to reach around back and flip off the AC power and then restart the power and the computer.
4.
I added the output of sudo journalctl -b -0 to the second line at http://lightbythesea.com/debian/journalctl0.dat for what its worth.
Thanks for your time and help
Jim
1.
I got output using sudo journalctl -b -0 using -1 or -2 results in a message " Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found"
I went through the output and couldn't find anything that when googled looked like a problem.
2.
I loaded debian 9 and linuxcnc onto a standard WD hard drive and booted the computer with that h-drive to compare problems. The WD h-drive is much slower than the PYN SSD drive all other information was collected from. The WD failed only once where it was identical to the issue with the SSD, blank screen blinking cursor - hung. Twice it failed on boot entering a EFI shell. Other that those three exceptions it booted into debian 9 on reboot fine. I would like to believe this indicates the problem is not with the motherboard.
I have also booted the WD on a dell precision 390 and it's journalctl output is very close to the SSD on the gigabyte mb.
3.
When the gigabite/SSD hangs on reboot (not cold start) nothing from that time is written into the journalctl or syslog files. During the reboot process the gigibyte splash appears then the grub menu and the messages "Loading Linux 4.9.0-8-rt-amd64" and "Loading initial ramdisk" then everything halts with the screen hung with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner. Ctl-Alt-Del will not recover the system, holding the computer start button down long enough will kill the computer, the other way is to reach around back and flip off the AC power and then restart the power and the computer.
4.
I added the output of sudo journalctl -b -0 to the second line at http://lightbythesea.com/debian/journalctl0.dat for what its worth.
Thanks for your time and help
Jim
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
oh right, persistant journaling has to be enabled first!jamby wrote:Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found
you might want to do it now in case you run into similar problems later.
can be useful.
https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/sys ... .5.en.html
but since it's not persistent, it can't have caught a failed reboot, because you have to cold boot afterwards, afaiu???I added the output of sudo journalctl -b -0 to the second line at http://lightbythesea.com/debian/journalctl0.dat for what its worth.
at what time did the failed reboot occur?
Re: d-9 boots but fails reboot
debman
Not sure what time any particular reboot happened. But I may have stumbled over the answer to my problem, only a weeks worth of testing will be sure.
I was digging around the google-vers looking for an answer and came across something that had me looking at hard "drive delay time". But my Bios has nothing on that but did have "boot option filter" which did the trick so far. Under the Advanced tab of the Bios is csm support and it that tab is [see below]
So I wouldn't mark it solved yet but its looking good.
Thanks for all your help
Jim
Not sure what time any particular reboot happened. But I may have stumbled over the answer to my problem, only a weeks worth of testing will be sure.
I was digging around the google-vers looking for an answer and came across something that had me looking at hard "drive delay time". But my Bios has nothing on that but did have "boot option filter" which did the trick so far. Under the Advanced tab of the Bios is csm support and it that tab is [see below]
The "boot option filter" was the one that made the difference. By changing it (and restoring all the others I had changed) the computer now is rebooting on every attempt.csm [enabled]
boot option filter [legacy only] <===
network [do not launch]
storage [legacy only]
video [legacy only]
other pci devices [uepi first]
So I wouldn't mark it solved yet but its looking good.
Thanks for all your help
Jim