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Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby northernwei » 2019-10-12 18:17

Hello,
I upgraded to testing from current stable by changing "sources.list" file in this way:
# See https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList for more information.
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org testing-security main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org testing-security main contrib non-free

#deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing-updates main
#deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian testing-updates main

#deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates main

I use Gnome Desktop Environment and in About Panel (Settings > Details > About) the name of the system is Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid. Isn't "sid" unstable version of Debian? Did I do something wrong?
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby kedaha » 2019-10-12 21:40

northernwei wrote:I use Gnome Desktop Environment and in About Panel (Settings > Details > About) the name of the system is Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid. Isn't "sid" unstable version of Debian? Did I do something wrong?

No, that's how it is. The testing distribution, Bullseye, goes hand in hand with the unstable distribution, sid (the evil neighbor kid next door who breaks all the toys). :wink:
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby sunrat » 2019-10-13 02:21

northernwei wrote:I upgraded to testing from current stable

Welcome to the world of eternal upgrades and occasional catastrophes! :mrgreen:
Hopefully you can contribute to the testing of Debian by reporting all the bugs you find.
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-10-13 08:53

The information is derived from /etc/os-release

And if you have a Security line for testing in your sources then you obviously don't have a clue what you're doing. Good luck with the b0rkage...

https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby northernwei » 2019-10-13 10:30

sunrat wrote:Welcome to the world of eternal upgrades and occasional catastrophes! :mrgreen:
Hopefully you can contribute to the testing of Debian by reporting all the bugs you find.

Thank you very much. :)
If I can keep myself motivated, I want to do my best to contribute.
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby northernwei » 2019-10-13 10:41

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:The information is derived from /etc/os-release

And if you have a Security line for testing in your sources then you obviously don't have a clue what you're doing. Good luck with the b0rkage...

https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing


Hello,
I put security lines for testing because on Debian wiki page (https://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing) it says:

In order to have a secure testing installation, you must run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to update your system on a regular basis and have the following in your SourcesList:

deb http://security.debian.org testing-security main contrib non-free

deb-src http://security.debian.org testing-security main contrib non-free
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby northernwei » 2019-10-13 10:57

kedaha wrote:No, that's how it is. The testing distribution, Bullseye, goes hand in hand with the unstable distribution, sid (the evil neighbor kid next door who breaks all the toys). :wink:


Thanks for your answer. Sid is evil but looks shiny. :)
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-10-13 10:58

Please read the Debian Security FAQ link I provided, testing is not really suitable for any critical use. See also viewtopic.php?f=12&t=134762&p=655783
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby kedaha » 2019-10-13 13:26

northernwei wrote:I upgraded to testing from current stable [ ...]

May we know why you did that? Thanks.
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby northernwei » 2019-10-13 14:34

kedaha wrote:May we know why you did that? Thanks.

I also use Debian Stable in the same computer. I tried Debian Backports and upgraded Linux Kernel but later I decided to have a clean and untouched Debian stable. Because of that I use Debian Stable and I try to use Debian testing.

Additionally, I use an app called "Minitube" but in Debian Stable it doesn't work. It works in Debian testing without a problem.

Finally, in Debian stable I cannot get voice from headphones and I use Pavucontrol to choose Headphones as Output Devices and it works. I tried Debian Testing to see if it would work without using Pavucontrol app. But same problem still exists.
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Re: Debian Testing - Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

Postby kedaha » 2019-10-13 17:25

northernwei wrote:I use an app called "Minitube" but in Debian Stable it doesn't work. It works in Debian testing without a problem.

I use minitube in Debian Stable but had to backport it from sid the same way as detailed in my old topic viewtopic.php?f=20&t=104399 because the 2.9-1 version in Buster doesn't work.
Code: Select all
$ apt policy minitube
minitube:
  Installed: 3.1-1
  Candidate: 3.1-1
  Version table:
 *** 3.1-1 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.9-1 500
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

northernwei wrote:Finally, in Debian stable I cannot get voice from headphones and I use Pavucontrol to choose Headphones as Output Devices and it works. I tried Debian Testing to see if it would work without using Pavucontrol app. But same problem still exists.

Someone else may know about that; I don't use ALSA at all on my system.
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