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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby Penaut Butter » 2020-06-08 19:38

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Firmware files are fine to grab with git, Debian seem to have lost interest in updating their firmware packages so it's the simplest solution at the moment.

Alternatively MX Linux have ported Ubuntu's firmware to a Debian buster base, you can use their .deb package: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/ahs/l/li ... +1_all.deb

It's frustrating to see that there is no official workaround for new hardware+debian, from debian. But thank you for this interesting workaround.

Bloom wrote:If you need firmware, try the Debian non-free repositories with non-free and/or closed-source firmware packages first.

I already did, but there's still lots of things missing, from firmware fixes, to firmware binaries themselves. Debian sid's firmware package is almost a year old (20190717), so its understandable why new wifi/bt hardware is not going to work at all, or why some laptops will run hot, or some graphics are going to be glitchy.

I already tried grabbing firmware from git, and it works as expected, correctly, I was just wondering if it was let say an approved practice for daily use in a main machine. At the moment I think I'm going to wait a bit before I replace Fedora with Debian Stable + backported kernel/firmware. Since I know there's going to be a lot of fixes/features I need coming to kernel 5.8 and perhaps 5.9, 5.10...

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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-06-09 09:41

Penaut Butter wrote:It's frustrating to see that there is no official workaround for new hardware+debian, from debian.

Non-free packages are not part of the official Debian release and are provided only as a convenience.

It's your own fault for buying hardware that requires blobs. Heathen :mrgreen:
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-09 11:04

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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby sunrat » 2020-06-09 11:43



Maybe the installer is updated every week, but the firmware is not. Here is the list from just upgraded siduction which comes with all sid firmware and maybe even the kitchen sink:

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$ apt list --installed firmware*
Listing... Done
firmware-amd-graphics/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-atheros/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-b43-installer/unstable,now 1:019-6 all [installed]
firmware-b43legacy-installer/unstable,now 1:019-6 all [installed]
firmware-bnx2/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-bnx2x/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-brcm80211/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-crystalhd/now 0.0~git20120110.fdd2f19-1 all [installed,local]
firmware-intelwimax/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-iwlwifi/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-libertas/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-linux-free/unstable,now 20200122-1 all [installed]
firmware-linux-nonfree/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-misc-nonfree/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-myricom/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-netxen/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-qlogic/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-realtek/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-ti-connectivity/unstable,now 20190717-2 all [installed]
firmware-zd1211/unstable,now 1:1.5-7 all [installed]
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-09 12:43

sunrat wrote:Maybe the installer is updated every week, but the firmware is not.

Nope, it is updated.
Don't believe in the package names and dates of files -> f.e. most of the Realtek firmware files from MX repos are exactly the same as in Sid, only the date is "newer".

Besides, just like in case of any software, firmware has bugs and regressions, so: newer firmware != better firmware
Updating firmware without having a reason is like switching from Debian stable to testing, or in some cases to experimental ;)

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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-06-11 09:48

LE_746F6D617A7A69 wrote:Nope, it is updated.

I've only checked the firmware-amd-graphics package but the .deb supplied with the sid image doesn't contain any Navi or Renoir firmware, unlike MX's updated firmware package (or indeed the upstream kernel.org source).
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-11 10:18

@ HOAS:
That's why I've used the term "most of" and not "all of" ;)

My intention was to point out that this claim:
Penaut Butter wrote:Debian sid's firmware package is almost a year old (20190717)...
is simply not true.

IMHO stevepusser is doing a great job by packaging the bleeding-edge firmware, but it would be nice if the firmware files would have their original release dates, to avoid confusion.

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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby sunrat » 2020-06-11 11:20

LE_746F6D617A7A69 wrote:My intention was to point out that this claim:
Penaut Butter wrote:Debian sid's firmware package is almost a year old (20190717)...
is simply not true.

You've said that before but provided no evidence for your assertion. Is 20190717 some other mysterious number sequence rather than a date? I get that the firmware package date doesn't mean that is the date the firmware was released, it could be from 5 years ago or whatever. But a package from July 2019 is not going to contain any firmware released after that date. Happy to concede I'm wrong if you can prove it.

IMHO stevepusser is doing a great job by packaging the bleeding-edge firmware, but it would be nice if the firmware files would have their original release dates, to avoid confusion.

Yes he is but Steve wouldn't need to package bleeding-edge firmware sourced from outside Debian if it were released in unstable like we would expect.

This thread has gone way off course anyway. The title refers to OP's inconsequential warning message about firmware they didn't need. And something about Nvidia which was also dealt with.
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-11 12:10

sunrat wrote:You've said that before but provided no evidence for your assertion. Is 20190717 some other mysterious number sequence rather than a date? I get that the firmware package date doesn't mean that is the date the firmware was released, it could be from 5 years ago or whatever. But a package from July 2019 is not going to contain any firmware released after that date. Happy to concede I'm wrong if you can prove it.

Did You actually checked the firmware packages from Sid?

firmware-realtek_20190717-2_all.deb contains firmware files dated on 2019.09.01 -> ~2 months newer than the package name would suggest, and most of those files are exactly the same as in MX -> You can verify this f.e. by using cmp command.

The same rule holds for every other firmware package from Sid -> apparently the devs don't care to update the package names in unstable ;)
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby sunrat » 2020-06-11 12:56

LE_746F6D617A7A69 wrote:Did You actually checked the firmware packages from Sid?

firmware-realtek_20190717-2_all.deb contains firmware files dated on 2019.09.01 -> ~2 months newer than the package name would suggest, and most of those files are exactly the same as in MX -> You can verify this f.e. by using cmp command.

OK, You're right, they're only nine months old. :mrgreen: Wonder why they didn't change the package name date instead of just adding "-2"?
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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby LE_746F6D617A7A69 » 2020-06-11 13:53

sunrat wrote:OK, You're right, they're only nine months old. :mrgreen:

Just like the corresponding files in MX :mrgreen:

I've checked that the most recent change in firmware packages for Sid is for Broadcom chips, dated 2020.06.06 -> updates b43-fwcutter:
changelog.Debian wrote:b43-fwcutter (1:019-6) unstable; urgency=medium

* QA upload.
* Install classic (5.100.138) firmware for cards working badly with 6.x,
thanks to Gert van de Kraats. (Closes: #958566, #960279)
<-------------------- THIS
* Add dependency on pciutils for lspci.
* Run firmware removal commands under LC_ALL=C. (Closes: #960791)
* Do not fail while removing no longer existing files. (Closes: #956858)
* Updated Spanish debconf translations thanks to Camaleón. (Closes: #962052)
* Simplify install rules.
* Set Rules-Requires-Root: no.
* Switch to debhelper-compat (= 13).
* Bump Standards-Version 4.5.0 (no changes).

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Re: Missing firmware for module r8169?

Postby Xeno Idaltu » 2020-10-28 22:28

I was busy doing other things and left this problem aside until now that I was uinstalling kernels that I remembered this topic.

This problem has been fixed by installing package "firmware-realtek" from the Backported Repos:
sudo apt -t buster-backports install firmware-realtek



If people want to compare files inside each version then these are the links:
Firmware-Realtek (Buster)
https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-realtek

Firmware-Realtek (Buster Backports)
https://packages.debian.org/buster-back ... re-realtek


As you can see file rtl8125a-3.fw is now listed.

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If people don't want to use Backports then just manually install it from the Kernel's official repo:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke ... n/rtl_nic/


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Q: What was fixed?

A: WiFi would work without any problem once connected. The problem was when disconnecting and connecting again. It wouldn't connect and I had to restart the Network via the command or just simply tick the Airplane Mode and try connecting again. After installing from Backports, so far it's been good.
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