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I need to enable wifi every boot - Solved

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#16 Post by hillelana »

I looked through the bios. It's from ages ago with no settings to speak of. The laptop has a physical wifi switch, not a function key one. I googled "need to enable wifi every boot linux (or debian) 75 times. I help out lots of people with their Windows issues. I heard about the RTFM nasties, but I thought maybe someone would just quickly realize what setting got messed up. Maybe I should have been clearer. The laptop didn't have this issue when first set up (or with manjaro), but then a few weeks ago it started. I didn't on purpose change any setting. I thought maybe it was an update not compatible with my old laptop. If you want to disparage me more, go right ahead. I can take it - I'm married.

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#17 Post by Deb-fan »

If you want to disparage me more, go right ahead. I can take it - I'm married.
LMFAO ... definitely like thy style there, lol. :D

The function keys thing can actually be somewhat insidious, it's threw me off a couple times for a min or two, here + there. Not really so much ire aimed at you specifically just general frustration about all the Canonical folks who've flooded nix communities they clearly don't belong in etc blahblah. Yeppers actually providing some amount of meaningful information about what you've done, what you're dealing with does tend to help people to help you. Without having to type a gazillion could be or try this's till damn fingers bleed.

Though if someone has spent as much time as I have dorking around in nix forums then gets to feeling like someone can/has covered about everything ... more than several times, many, many times and seen others having done likewise. Know I have covered checking dpkg logs to see which pkgs etc have been upgraded in a given span of time. Anyway good luck no matter, am about 1000% sure the info you seek is in this and many other nix fori's or docs. :)

Lol ... if you're of really stout stuff search Head_on's post history. Wade through 42,000+ posts if you dare, lol. No wonder and gotta be one of the reasons the guy's on the edge of a mental breakdown.

Oops, edit: Credit where due, if someone were to do so, no doubt they'd learn a metric-crapton of things about tech but still not even sure how that much nix forum activity is humanly possible and often joked about thinking he's a cyborg ( I still do btw, he insists he's a bot tho.) Spent that much time dealing with the avg nix user (or person who uses gnu/nix and thinks they're a nixer), I'd be curled up in a ball somewhere drooling on myself. :P
Afterthought: Also thus is one of the reasons why I'm strongly opposed to the concept of marriage. When time comes and I wish to get rid of the other party of a relationship or she wants to be rid of me ... We don't have to do any paperwork. :D
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#18 Post by hillelana »

How's this for a clue, if anybody gives a darn?
When I first boot and the check box "enable wifi " is as usual unchecked, if I run -"sudo ip link set wls3 up" the response is "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill". Then whether I turn off then on the physical wifi switch, hit the wifi function key, or click the enable wifi checkbox, it works fine until I reboot.
Now I've got something new to look up in the ultimate free tech support place.


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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#20 Post by hillelana »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@OP: ignore Deb-fan, if the networking service wasn't enabled and running then clicking on the tickbox wouldn't do anything.

Can we see

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journalctl --unit NetworkManager --unit network-manager
Here it is -
Logs begin at Tue 2021-03-16 07:45:54 PDT, end at Tue 2021-03-16 07:55:05 PDT. --
Mar 16 07:46:03 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m systemd[1]: Starting Network Manager...
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.1431] NetworkManager (version 1.14.6) is starting... (for the first time)
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.1433] Read config: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf (lib: no-mac-addr-chang
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.2410] wifi-nl80211: (wls3): using nl80211 for WiFi device control
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.4606] bus-manager: acquired D-Bus service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m systemd[1]: Started Network Manager.
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.9347] manager[0x1e82030]: monitoring kernel firmware directory '/lib/firmware'.
Mar 16 07:46:09 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905969.9348] monitoring ifupdown state file '/run/network/ifstate'.
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7622] hostname: hostname: using hostnamed
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7623] hostname: hostname changed from (none) to "aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m"
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7629] dns-mgr[0x1e7bbe0]: init: dns=default, rc-manager=resolvconf
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7656] rfkill0: found WiFi radio killswitch (at /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7662] manager[0x1e82030]: rfkill: WiFi hardware radio set enabled
Mar 16 07:46:11 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905971.7663] manager[0x1e82030]: rfkill: WWAN hardware radio set enabled
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905972.6931] ifupdown: interface-parser: parsing file /etc/network/interfaces
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905972.6933] ifupdown: interface-parser: source line includes interfaces file(s) /e
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <warn> [1615905972.6934] ifupdown: interfaces file /etc/network/interfaces.d/* doesn't exist
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905972.6935] ifupdown: interface-parser: finished parsing file /etc/network/interfa
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905972.6936] ifupdown: management mode: managed
Mar 16 07:46:12 aufr-ThinkPad-Z61m NetworkManager[446]: <info> [1615905972.6936] settings: Loaded settings plugin: SettingsPluginIfupdown ("/usr/lib/i386-lin

There was tons more. But at 7:46:11 it looks like that's when I hit the wifi function button and everything started working.

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#21 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Check your firmware ("BIOS") settings. Debian should save and restore the rfkill status but that can't change the hardware button setting.

And please stop polluting this thread with your pathetic whining. If you don't like what people say then either ignore them or grow a pair and tell them to go **** themselves.

Pro tip: these boards have a useful "ignore" function for posters you don't like. It won't work on me though :mrgreen:
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#22 Post by Deb-fan »

^ Scrolling, works on you like a charm and generally what I do, lol. :D

Also at one time I actually did start looking into putting something together for client-side ignore. It's very clear much forum software leaves much to be desired. If I do put someone, mod or admin, a user .. whoever on ignore, I don't want to see anything from or of them, whether I'm logged in or not, ah ... scrolling works wonders.

The forum software might not support it but being tech there's ALWAYS many ways to skin a cat, many ways to approach anything/eveything. One of the many awesome things about it, shrugs.

Anyway ... lol, yeah OP you'll end up spending A LOT of time with Google + the f'ing manual. When you talk it's clear you're an intelligent and funny woman. Hopefully stubborn too, keep plugging away and you'll figure it out. :)
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot - solved!

#23 Post by hillelana »

Thank you.
I followed the steps, but at the next boot wifi wasn't enabled again. Then I saw in one of the comments to rfkill block bluetooth. That didn't work either. But then I realized that I had been trying to get a usb bluetooth dongle to work on this laptop but gave up. That was about the time this issue started, but whining, polluting, male me forgot. So I removed all the bluetooth packages and BINGO, WOO HOO upon restart wifi was enabled!!
Thank you all. It's been real.

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#24 Post by Deb-fan »

male me forgot.
LMFAO again, ... errr, oops, sowwie. :D

Ps, ... face .. meet palm, palm ... face. On the brightside you got it figured out. :P
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot

#25 Post by hillelana »

I'm going to reinstall network manager because along the way I tried a bunch of configuration changes and vi editing pages that were suggested to help but didn't. And I didn't always undo them right away, because I thought maybe it needed a few fixes.

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot - Solved

#26 Post by Deb-fan »

Gotta do it ...

Kinda seems like this is more an all over the place personal journal of whatever you happen to be doing, rather than any type of help thread that makes any sense, shrugs.

Yes, clearly peeps need to RTFM and also the FAQ's, every gnu/Nix forum since time began all have them. Much of what's covered should go without saying, the what you should do before posting, what information to provide when asking for help etc etc. Too few bother using such painfully obvious pointers. Starting to seem like the only thing read less than the manual is the FAQ's ... :P (edit: By many which waste their and others time in nix forums anyway.)

Only saying yeppers in the OP, ZERO worthwhile info provided, now as this thread has evolved if it can be described that way, a snippet here, random thing there.

OP with zero worthwhile, totally lacking very much needed, most basic info for anyone to want to bother even trying to assist you, tons of views, no replies, again thought ah why not, throw anything out there, surely this is something simple/stupid, poke the thread a couple times and the solution shall be found. HELL NO, turns out the situation was nothing like simple, this or that to do with bluetooth pkgs you installed at whichever point.

Of course no mention of anything of the sort, at least not at any time which could've been useful to people here trying to assist you. How exactly in the fark could you possibly think anyone could do anything to help you out in these circumstances ? It's a Debian gnu/nix forum, not a mind readers convention right ?

Anyway ... no worries, great you solved this, yep ... still think folks need read and follow the f'ing manual and the self explanatory, should go without saying FAQ's too. DO IT, JUST F'ING DO IT !!! FARK ! :D

Lol ... pardon the outburst folks, just venting, dayum ...

Oops, ps ... are you/OP some oddball tarded-trollish type person ? Definitely is much in the way of weird and/or tarded activity afoot on this forum. Ah doesn't matter ...
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot - Solved

#27 Post by hillelana »

Now we know that bluetooth can stop wifi from starting. Maybe that will speed up someone's search for answers. If the admins think that this conversation was totally useless, feel free to delete it. It makes for amusing reading either way, but that's not the point of the forum.

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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot - Solved

#28 Post by Deb-fan »

Yeah, do think it's got some funny bits and sure this should be kept, effort went into it. It should be used as a what not to do, how not to post or this is tarded or trolling activity example. :D

PS, more pointless venting: Honestly think OP's like yours should simply be deleted as spam, trolling posts. Should've let it sink into oblivion just out of general principle anyway. Totally useless, void of any basic info OP. Think rule of thumb in a better quality forum setting should be ...
Don't follow the common sense faq's ? WHAM ... deleted, warning and/or user-ban, shrugs. :)
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Re: I need to enable wifi every boot - Solved

#29 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

I'm locking the thread now to prevent further deterioration. Thanks to the OP for posting their solution.
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