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Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby m00nd0g » 2010-01-16 20:00

Hi ... I know this isn't the case but can someone explain what I need to install this software . Because from the website it shows this below

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-dvd/

Why is there more than 20 gb ?

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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby craigevil » 2010-01-16 20:20

You only need the first dvd or cd to install unless you do not have internet on the machine you are installing to then you would probably want all of the dvds.

If you have decent broadband connection the netinstall is the fastest way to install.
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby m00nd0g » 2010-01-17 00:45

Thanks for responding ... So all I need to install this operating system is this below ?

debian-503-i386-DVD-1.iso 05-Sep-2009 10:59 4.4G

So why is there 2,3,4,5 files and so on ? What are the rest for ?

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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby craigevil » 2010-01-17 00:50

Yes, the other dvds are for the rest of the 20,000 packages that are available in debian.
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby aj123 » 2010-01-17 03:26

m00nd0g wrote:Thanks for responding ... So all I need to install this operating system is this below ?

debian-503-i386-DVD-1.iso 05-Sep-2009 10:59 4.4G

So why is there 2,3,4,5 files and so on ? What are the rest for ?

Thanks


Or debian-503-i386-CD-1.iso

Everything you need to install a complete desktop is included in the first DVD or CD. The other discs include extra software in case you don't have an internet connection. Once you have installed the first DVD or CD you will be able to install any of that extra software if you need it.
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby m00nd0g » 2010-01-17 23:22

Thanks for the info ... I have them all . I will give the first one a try ... I'm planning to take my time to try to understand this type of operating system . I'm sure it isn't that easy to learn but I will give it a go and see how it goes ...
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby Rolling Stone » 2010-01-20 15:51

This kind of threads really make one wonder how much useless downloads there are. People go ahead and download all the DVDs while all they actually need is the first CD. Or even just the netinstall, which might not be good enough for newbies though.

Perhaps some easy-to-digest in-your-face documentation would help.

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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby aj123 » 2010-01-20 16:59

To install Debian on a machine without an Internet connection, it's possible to use CD images (650 MB each) or DVD images (4.4 GB each). Download the first CD or DVD image file, write it using a CD/DVD recorder, and then reboot from that.

The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system.
To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them.


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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby julian67 » 2010-01-20 17:06

aj123 wrote:How more in-you-face do you want it to be?


Perhaps some kind of virtual reality experience where a hand emerges from the monitor screen, slaps the viewer hard across the face while the speakers scream "You only need the first CD! Don't just look at the pictures....try reading the f***ing words!"

My estimate is that this would reduce the number of times this question is raised by no more than 0.5%, but it would be fun to watch.
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby Rolling Stone » 2010-01-20 21:30

julian67 wrote:My estimate is that this would reduce the number of times this question is raised by no more than 0.5%, but it would be fun to watch.
Every little byte helps.

Maybe there should be some kind of trick questions to answer before you could download. As people who're not going to rtfm aren't going to make it anyways.

Or maybe the project just is desperate for some success... /friendly fire
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby aj123 » 2010-01-21 02:51

Or just link directly to the ISO vs presenting users with a directory listing of every single ISO available.
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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby enfield » 2010-01-21 18:49

julian67 wrote:
aj123 wrote:How more in-you-face do you want it to be?


Perhaps some kind of virtual reality experience where a hand emerges from the monitor screen, slaps the viewer hard across the face while the speakers scream "You only need the first CD! Don't just look at the pictures....try reading the f***ing words!"

My estimate is that this would reduce the number of times this question is raised by no more than 0.5%, but it would be fun to watch.


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I had the same confusion (last summer)

Postby Ahtiga Saraz » 2010-01-25 04:16

m00nd0g, I had the exact same confusion when I wanted to install Debian for the first time last June. It would have helped both of us if someone had told us right away that you only need to get the first CD, and after installing the core Debian system from that, the idea is that you immediately upgrade over the net to the latest version (in the stable repositories, if you are using Debian Lenny) of all the software, and then to add anything else you need. It's all very easy thanks to the magic of the Debian package management system. Anyway, now you know!
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Re: I had the same confusion (last summer)

Postby julian67 » 2010-01-25 09:19

Ahtiga Saraz wrote: It would have helped both of us if someone had told us right away that you only need to get the first CD


They did and they do. Requirements for success: basic literacy. In fact you are specifically asked not to download anything other than CD1/DVD1 unless you know you need it.

To install Debian on a machine without an Internet connection, it's possible to use CD images (650 MB each) or DVD images (4.4 GB each). Download the first CD or DVD image file, write it using a CD/DVD recorder, and then reboot from that.

The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system.
To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them.


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Re: Over 20 gb to install ?

Postby Absent Minded » 2010-01-25 09:51

I highly recomend that those helping in this section please read Harold's post here: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=47077#p269093

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