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Questions about Update Manager

Postby Uunreal » 2010-04-12 12:06

I have a a few questions about Testing's update manager. When I go to the update manager I get a message saying "Do you want to perform a safe-upgrade, which does not remove packages or install new ones"?

Will my entire system ever eventually get upgraded if I only ever do safe-upgrades? Or is there a time and a place to do non-safe upgrades? I did a non-safe upgrade a few days ago and all it did was mess with a bunch of OpenOffice packages.

Why are only certain packages selected by default when doing a non safe upgrade?

Why is it that whenever I do a non-safe upgrade when it's done applying the updates the same packages I just installed are listed as available updates?

Also, I used this website to build my sources.list and there apparently is some sort of "fatal error" with one of the repositories I selected. Is there a text file somewhere I can go to see a readout of apt-get bug reports?
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Re: Questions about Update Manager

Postby craigevil » 2010-04-12 12:48

Paste your sources.list

As for safe-upgrade and full-upgrade take a look at man aptitude.

safe-upgrade
Upgrades installed packages to their most recent version. Installed
packages will not be removed unless they are unused (see the
section “Managing Automatically Installed Packages” in the aptitude
reference manual). Packages which are not currently installed may
be installed to resolve dependencies unless the --no-new-installs
command-line option is supplied.

If no <package>s are listed on the command line, aptitude will
attempt to upgrade every package that can be upgraded. Otherwise,
aptitude will attempt to upgrade only the packages which it is
instructed to upgrade. The <package>s can be extended with suffixes
in the same manner as arguments to aptitude install, so you can
also give additional instructions to aptitude here; for instance,
aptitude safe-upgrade bash dash- will attempt to upgrade the bash
package and remove the dash package.

full-upgrade
Upgrades installed packages to their most recent version, removing
or installing packages as necessary. This command is less
conservative than safe-upgrade and thus more likely to perform
unwanted actions. However, it is capable of upgrading packages that
safe-upgrade cannot upgrade.

If no <package>s are listed on the command line, aptitude will
attempt to upgrade every package that can be upgraded. Otherwise,
aptitude will attempt to upgrade only the packages which it is
instructed to upgrade. The <package>s can be extended with suffixes
in the same manner as arguments to aptitude install, so you can
also give additional instructions to aptitude here; for instance,
aptitude full-upgrade bash dash- will attempt to upgrade the bash
package and remove the dash package.

Note
This command was originally named dist-upgrade for historical
reasons, and aptitude still recognizes dist-upgrade as a
synonym for full-upgrade.
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Re: Questions about Update Manager

Postby refracta » 2010-04-12 12:54

craigevil wrote:As for safe-upgrade and full-upgrade take a look at man aptitude.

Is the aptitude man page relevant in regards to update-manager?
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Re: Questions about Update Manager

Postby craigevil » 2010-04-12 13:06

refracta wrote:
craigevil wrote:As for safe-upgrade and full-upgrade take a look at man aptitude.

Is the aptitude man page relevant in regards to update-manager?


Not sure actually, I assume Update-Manager is using aptitude since safe-upgrade and full-upgrade apply to aptitude and not apt-get.
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Re: Questions about Update Manager

Postby Uunreal » 2010-04-12 20:53

craigevil wrote:Paste your sources.list

Code: Select all
#############################################################
################### OFFICIAL DEBIAN REPOS ###################
#############################################################

###### Debian Main Repos
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

###### Debian Update Repos
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free

##############################################################
##################### UNOFFICIAL  REPOS ######################
##############################################################

###### 3rd Party Binary Repos

#### Debian Multimedia - http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
## Run this command: apt-get update && apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring && apt-get update
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main

#### Debian Unofficial - http://debian-unofficial.org/
## Run this command:  apt-get install debian-unofficial-archive-keyring
deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free restricted

#### Google Linux Software Repositories (testing) - http://www.google.com
## Run this command: wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add - && apt-get update 
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing non-free

#### The Opera .deb Repository - http://deb.opera.com/
## Run this command: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | apt-key add -
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ testing non-free

#### Unofficial Maintainers - http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/
## Run this command: apt-get install dmo-archive-keyring
deb http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ squeeze/backports main contrib non-free restricted

#### VirtualBox - http://www.virtualbox.org
## Run this command: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/sun_vbox.asc -O- | apt-key add -
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free

#### Webmin - http://webmin.com/
## Run this command: wget -q http://www.webmin.com/jcameron-key.asc -O- | apt-key add -
deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib

#### Wine - http://www.winehq.org/
## Run this command: wget -O - http://www.lamaresh.net/apt/key.gpg | apt-key add -
deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt squeeze main


####### 3rd Party Source Repos

#### Unofficial Maintainers (Source) - http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/
## Run this command: apt-get install dmo-archive-keyring
deb-src http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ squeeze/backports main contrib non-free restricted

#### Wine (Source) - http://www.winehq.org/
## Run this command: wget -O - http://www.lamaresh.net/apt/key.gpg | apt-key add -
deb-src http://www.lamaresh.net/apt squeeze main
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