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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby dasein » 2011-12-17 03:20

Phalanxer wrote:I've tried out a distrubtion of Linux called Ubuntu and Mint. They seem pretty cool and tend to just work so I am going to check out these some more.

Yeah, because with those distros, you don't have to know anything about file permissions <-- (sarcasm)

Phalanxer wrote:If you haven't checked them out I recommend you do. There really cool.

I am honest-to-gawd laughing aloud. If he only knew what he was saying. :lol:
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby 4D696B65 » 2011-12-17 03:22

Phalanxer wrote:Documentation? What documentation? There is nothing in the Help manual on configuring a network.

Really?
http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby vbrummond » 2011-12-17 03:42

Have fun goin out. :D
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby golinux » 2011-12-17 04:06

Phalanxer wrote:I've tried out a distrubtion of Linux called Ubuntu and Mint. They seem pretty cool and tend to just work so I am going to check out these some more. If you haven't checked them out I recommend you do. There really cool.

And both those distros are based on Debian code. How could you not know that! You think they are cool because they spoon-feed the uninitiated transitioning from Winblows. But Debian is for those who have outgrown the fanboi hype of Ubuntu and Mint. Maybe someday you'll come back to the mothership too!
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby Phalanxer » 2011-12-17 15:22

As for the idiot vbrummond calling me a troll. Your a fuckin dumb shit. I have an opinion that something is FUCKIN SHIT and I am a troll? You obviously lack social experience to behave like this. What a social failure you are.
For "everything in a text file". Your obviously stuck in some crap era of computing and haven't been introduced to a GUI. Who the hell wants to dig into text files. I know I sure don't.
You install off Debian CD's only? Says who? What type of a retard only installs off there "operating system" CD? What is wrong with you?
Also, its not Debian is too hard, its that time is money, and I am not some womanless failure that has more time on hand to care.
Debian requires reading some times? All I wanted to do was configure my network and install something off a CD. I shouldn't have to read anything, it should be bloody obvious. I found out that network-manager is missing from Debian. Real dumb shit developers that are totally clueless on how to make an operating system "lets remove network-manager and edit by text files, because it makes me feel more superior".
Most distributions are based on Debian? Well, the two I know off hand according to wiki that has a user base over 3 people are Ubuntu and Mint.
... and these two totally piss all over Debian in terms of popularity. Do you think this is because Debian is harder? If you do, then you've got rocks in your head. Those who think Ubuntu sucks over Debian needs to see a psychologist and probably re-evaluate their life. Ubuntu is better than Debian in every way, hence why its so damn popular.

For the loser golinux that said Debian code is the base for Ubuntu and Mint and "I should know that!". LMFAO you seriously, seriously need to explore life outside of this forum.

Allot of people on here seem to be out of touch and appear to be having some mid-life crisis hanging onto 1970's terminal concept.
GUI's were created to make life easy. If you insist on working with text files when its really much easier to do it a modern way, I suggest you re-evaluate your life.


As for "one day returning to mothership". Don't make me laugh! Debian sucks hard. People don't folk Debian because its great, they folk it because it sucks and they want to actually make it useful.

I've said what I wanted. Theres nothing more here for me.
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby golinux » 2011-12-17 15:34

Distributions based on Debian . . . more than two.
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Postby Ahtiga Saraz » 2011-12-17 20:14

@ Phalanxer:

I don't have you pegged as a troll, and IMO you can safely ignore such charges. New users are often accused of trolling, and trolling does occur in Linux forums, but IMO such charges are unwarranted more than 50% of the time.

However, I agree with those who said Linux Mint might be a better choice for you right now. But you should come back and try to work with Debian when you have more time (maybe next summer?) because computing is more fun and empowering when you get your hands dirty.

Two further points:
  • Debian has a "steep learning curve", more so than Mint and some other distros. That means that when you are exploring something new, at first things go very slowly. At some point things start to go very quickly and you find you have acquired a great deal of "consumer power", often of the form: know what happens in your computer/device and why.
  • In this thread, it turned out that specifying the specific command you were trying to run was really important, because busybox is something you are probably more likely to encounter if you are trying to examine a "smart device" using "embedded linux" rather than a standard desktop or server installation. In future, you might begin by trying to state what you are trying to do precisely but concisely and asking what further information would be useful for troubleshooting.

EDIT: another thought:

Debian Lenny (oldstable version, in 2011) was a joy when it came out a few years ago because it worked out of the box for many users, including me, and IMO offered much greater power and flexibility than other "works out of the box" distros like Mandriva, Mepis, Ubuntu. Unfortunately, Debian Squeeze (stable version, in 2011) seems to be much more difficult for many users to install, including me. In fairness to Debian, at least in my case this may be in part due to the fact that my hardware was only about five years older than Lenny when I first installed Lenny, and was about eight years older than Squeeze when I first tried to install Squeeze. But in part it seems to be the inevitable consequence of Debian excluding "nonfree" firmware and drivers from the installation media.

Anyway, there are good reasons why I am driving myself batty trying to install Squeeze for more than a year. To mention just three: (1) the other distros don't offer the rapid security updates and (2) Debian gives easy access to the huge Debian software repositories (3) the Debian package management system only works well (in my experience) if you actually use Debian stable rather than some "related" distro.

The reason I mention all this is that by the time you try Debian again, it is possible that a new stable distribution will once again work out of the box, e.g. if the Debian Project rethinks the nonfree issue wrt drivers/firmware needed to install Debian in the first place on most hardware.
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby dilberts_left_nut » 2011-12-17 21:55

... IBFTL :)

Phalater, you are an idiot troll.
And not a very original one either.
Piss off.

On the off chance that you are not (I have come across people as genuinely stupid as you appear before), WOW is all I can say.
Going by your logic, we should all take the easy path, have our software dumbed down and spoonfed, have someone else make it for us, just the way they think we should have it.
Do you apply the same attitude to the rest of your life?
Do you bother to learn to cook or is it just fast food every day cos it's easier and shinier?
Do you bother to select the correct tool for the job or is everything a hammer?
Do you produce or consume?
The only justification I can think of for your existence is that you are keeping a few kilo's of carbon out of the atmosphere ,,,
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby Randicus » 2011-12-18 00:30

dasein wrote:
Phalanxer wrote:If you haven't checked them out I recommend you do. There really cool.

I am honest-to-gawd laughing aloud. If he only knew what he was saying. :lol:

I got a laugh out of that as well. If only he knew where he was. :lol:
Ubuntu works? And Debian does not? I find it interesting how many individuals have the opposite experience of most people.
Phalanxer wrote:Theres nothing more here for me.

There never was anything for him here. :roll:
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby kiyop » 2011-12-18 01:04

4D696B65 wrote:
Phalanxer wrote:Documentation? What documentation? There is nothing in the Help manual on configuring a network.

Really?
http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

I laughed out loudly. :lol:
Thanks for a funny joke, Phalanxer, and thanks for nice support, 4D696B65. :D

To Phalanxer,

Phalanxer wrote:For "everything in a text file". Your obviously stuck in some crap era of computing and haven't been introduced to a GUI. Who the hell wants to dig into text files. I know I sure don't.
You install off Debian CD's only? Says who? What type of a retard only installs off there "operating system" CD? What is wrong with you?
Also, its not Debian is too hard, its that time is money, and I am not some womanless failure that has more time on hand to care.
Debian requires reading some times? All I wanted to do was configure my network and install something off a CD. I shouldn't have to read anything, it should be bloody obvious. I found out that network-manager is missing from Debian. Real dumb shit developers that are totally clueless on how to make an operating system "lets remove network-manager and edit by text files, because it makes me feel more superior".

I think that persons who cannot read manuals because of lack of time or who does not read manual or who cannot understand some poster's kind reply should not use debian.
Ubuntu and Mint is superior than debian because they can be manipulated by incompetent persons like you. :wink:
All the posters who gave you the answers to resolve your problem are superior than you because they can manipulate debian. 8)
You cannot manipulate debian without learning.
Go back to kinder distributions like Ubuntu or Mint.

ADDED at 2011/12/19 3:19 in JAPAN:

Phalanxer wrote:Those who think Ubuntu sucks over Debian needs to see a psychologist and probably re-evaluate their life. Ubuntu is better than Debian in every way, hence why its so damn popular.

I was irritated by unity and interfering auto-configuration and little degree of freedom of Ubuntu and started using debian.
I think in debian you can configure easily many settings if you learn how to manipulate.
And debian works on more architecture than Ubuntu and Mint.
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby golinux » 2011-12-18 01:48

dilberts_left_nut wrote:Going by your logic, we should all take the easy path, have our software dumbed down and spoonfed, have someone else make it for us, just the way they think we should have it.
Do you apply the same attitude to the rest of your life?
Do you bother to learn to cook or is it just fast food every day cos it's easier and shinier?
Do you bother to select the correct tool for the job or is everything a hammer?
Do you produce or consume?

Our species is quickly losing its instincts for survival which include curiosity, motivation and problem solving. When crunch time comes specimens like this will be the first to exit. Darwinism is action, I say!
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby JohnDeere730 » 2011-12-18 02:13

golinux wrote:
dilberts_left_nut wrote:Going by your logic, we should all take the easy path, have our software dumbed down and spoonfed, have someone else make it for us, just the way they think we should have it.
Do you apply the same attitude to the rest of your life?
Do you bother to learn to cook or is it just fast food every day cos it's easier and shinier?
Do you bother to select the correct tool for the job or is everything a hammer?
Do you produce or consume?

Our species is quickly losing its instincts for survival which include curiosity, motivation and problem solving. When crunch time comes specimens like this will be the first to exit. Darwinism is action, I say!


@dilberts_left_nut...that was hilarious.. :lol: esp. the one about the hammer. That guy is dumber'n a bag o'hammers, for sure.
@Golinux...you are spot-on....ain't socialism great? I sure am glad my tax dollars can go to subsidizing the procreation of such lazy, spoiled and self-indulgent cretins.

Thank you all for serving as an idiot-buffer for the rest of the debianites! :lol:
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Maybe no need to be quite so rough on a frustrated noobie?

Postby Ahtiga Saraz » 2011-12-19 02:43

Phalanxer losing his/her temper didn't help, but I think you all should cut people a lot more slack when they are having installation problems. Some points you might bear in mind:
  • installing can be complicated
  • someone who has just spent many hours trying and failing to install Debian is probably feeling frustrated and not at their best, and IMO DUFians should try to make allowances for emotional and mental exhaustion which is normal under such circumstances,
  • when a newbie posts with an installation problem, IMO there are often complex factors unique to their specific situation/setup (how many people here have exactly the same hardware as another DUF user, for example?), so when when something goes wrong with installation, they typically need help eliminating (and perhaps solving!) "the easy stuff" which might have caused the problem, because they are probably focused on the hard stuff which DUFians don't know about.
My two cents, take it for what it is worth.
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby vbrummond » 2011-12-19 02:56

Troll trolly troll troll troll pants.
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Re: Not understanding why I am getting "Permission denied"

Postby JohnDeere730 » 2011-12-19 06:30

@Ahtiga...did you read his posts? If he isn't a troll, then I don't know what is. Frustration does not excuse long, ranting and profane abuse toward other members.He needs to go back to kindergarten and learn some manners, preferably to the tune of a hickory stick.
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