[SOLVED] Chinese/Japanese Input Support

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[SOLVED] Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-07 17:53

Hi guys, I just installed Debian and added Japanese+Chinese into language under input assuming I would be able to type in those languages.

However, when I switch to those languages, it's just a normal english input, what do I go from here?
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby dasein » 2017-08-07 17:58

Since I feel certain that you at least attempted a Web search before posting your question, please identify which of these existing solutions you already tried, along with the results of each.

https://classic.startpage.com//do/searc ... ine0=v1all

After all, there is no point in wasting time suggesting things you have already tried.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-07 18:16

Hi Dasein,

Let me just clarify a bit, I'm new to linux and I did do a google search but there are so many solutions out there for this one. I'm too scared to break my linux installation because I have no idea what I'm doing. I don't want to 'pick and choose' until I get something working (with possible side effects) which is why I posted here.

For those who do type in chinese or japanese, I was hoping someone knows a 'generally safe and accepted way' solution for this.

Hope that makes more sense.

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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby dasein » 2017-08-07 19:02

user2635 wrote:I did do a google search but there are so many solutions out there for this one. I'm too scared to break my linux installation...

Congrats on a clever new twist... gotta give you points for originality!

Of course, you could just as easily get a bad answer here as anywhere else...

So, the first lesson you need to learn is about making backups. Any time you successfully install a new distro, the very first thing you should do is make a backup. That way you don't need to worry about breaking anything.

Once you make that backup, you will be able to try any number of existing solutions without fear.

And if you're really all that new, maybe consider using a distro that is deliberately designed for newbies. Broadly speaking, Debian users tend to have some experience under their belts. Best available data say that 5 out of 6 Debian users started with a newb-friendly "starter" distro.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-07 19:16

Got it, I'll try that and see where I go.I went for the encrypted option when I installed debian, so I don't know how that will affect my backup (I'll figure it out somehow)

I'm more worried about the fact that there doesn't appear to be an easy agreed solution. A quick google of debian input methods gets me this (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intr ... ut.en.html) which is a massive technical guide that doesnt' help me.

Thanks for your help Dasein. In the meantime, if anyone else has other ideas, let me know.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby dasein » 2017-08-07 19:19

user2635 wrote:I went for the encrypted option when I installed debian...

And yet you claim you're new to this. How very interesting.

And by some strange Cosmic Coincidence, you have a prepackaged comeback to everything that doesn't involve having someone retype an existing answer just for you.

So much for those originality points. :roll:

But hey, your time is valuable, so of course I'd be happy to do your searching for you.

Here you go: https://classic.startpage.com//do/searc ... ine0=v1all

(And no, I won't come to your house to click the link.)
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby lbuiyzxl » 2017-08-07 19:25

user2635 wrote:when I switch to those languages, it's just a normal english input

How you "switch to those languages"?What is you did?
I need see more information to try help you.
Copy and post all output of following command:
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apt list --installed |grep -e \^ibus -e \^fcitx

If you want post some image on this forum, maybe this tool is you want to use.

user2635 wrote:'generally safe and accepted way'

user2635 wrote: encrypted option when I installed debian

You should encrypted your system and your data in respective device(partition or physical device).
So,you can free try way on your system don't worry your data.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-07 20:12

How you "switch to those languages"?What is you did?


I mean, generally switching languages by clicking the top right of the gnome taskbar? or by pressing super+space?

Here is what I get after running the command

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WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

fcitx/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-bin/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-config-common/stable,now 0.4.8-3 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-config-gtk/stable,now 0.4.8-3+b1 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-data/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-all/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-gtk2/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-gtk3/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-qt4/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-qt5/stable,now 1.0.5-1+b1 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-dbus/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-kimpanel/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-lua/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-x11/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-modules/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-ui-classic/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby arochester » 2017-08-07 20:24

Debian Chinese > https://www.debiancn.org/

Debian Japanese > http://www.debian.or.jp/
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby lbuiyzxl » 2017-08-08 06:49

user2635 wrote:
How you "switch to those languages"?What is you did?


I mean, generally switching languages by clicking the top right of the gnome taskbar? or by pressing super+space?

Here is what I get after running the command

Code: Select all
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

fcitx/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-bin/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-config-common/stable,now 0.4.8-3 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-config-gtk/stable,now 0.4.8-3+b1 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-data/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-all/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 all [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-gtk2/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-gtk3/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-qt4/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-frontend-qt5/stable,now 1.0.5-1+b1 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-dbus/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-kimpanel/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-lua/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-module-x11/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-modules/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]
fcitx-ui-classic/stable,now 1:4.2.9.1-6 amd64 [installed,auto-removable]

First,I can only help you input Chinese character,I no any Japanese language skills.
This show a list about some package of fcitx.
If you still can't understand ,try read output of following command :
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apt show fcitx ibus

Seem you no install any specific input method program
AFAIK,you should try install fcitx-pinyin for input Chinese character
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sudo apt install fcitx-pinyin
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-10 19:33

Thank you! It works now!谢谢你,终于可以打中文了!

Now I understand that the keyboard layout part has got nothing to do with keyboard input (see horrible quality pic: https://framapic.org/rkUTRlWX8F5p/MygPhIW1uIeZ.png)

You cannot add an actual language input method through there, thanks!!

I'll try to find a way to solve the Japanese part myself and leave this post open in case anyone knows how.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby lbuiyzxl » 2017-08-11 12:09

user2635 wrote:Thank you! It works now!谢谢你,终于可以打中文了!

Now I understand that the keyboard layout part has got nothing to do with keyboard input (see horrible quality pic: https://framapic.org/rkUTRlWX8F5p/MygPhIW1uIeZ.png)

You cannot add an actual language input method through there, thanks!!

I'll try to find a way to solve the Japanese part myself and leave this post open in case anyone knows how.


Although I no any Japanese language skills but I believe Japanese input will working with similar way when you install some package(input method).
Try google "Fcitx Japanese" or "Fcitx Japanese input method".
I already done a google result:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fcitx#Ava ... od_engines
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby user2635 » 2017-08-13 18:26

Worked it out, thanks!

I used ibus-mozc.
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Re: Chinese/Japanese Input Support

Postby lbuiyzxl » 2017-08-14 12:45

user2635 wrote:Worked it out, thanks!

I used ibus-mozc.

AFAIK,you should only use fcitx or ibus not both
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