Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby jordanwb » 2010-07-26 01:58

I installed Minefield via the PPA on Launchpad.

Deal with it.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby craigevil » 2010-07-26 02:10

jordanwb wrote:I installed Minefield via the PPA on Launchpad.

Deal with it.


Sure installing Ubuntu packages on Debian, yeah that's definitely not the right way to go about doing things.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8

$ apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
Installed: 4.0~b1-0
Candidate: 4.0~b1-0
Version table:
*** 4.0~b1-0 0
500 http://mozilla.debian.net ./ Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
3.6.7-1 0
101 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main Packages
3.5.11-1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org sid/main Packages
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby debianacm » 2010-08-16 05:17

Why do we need to rename firefox on so many linux distro? LOL
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby Narcissistic » 2010-08-16 08:07

debianacm wrote:Why do we need to rename firefox on so many linux distro? LOL


Because some people from FF decided to get picky and change the licence agreement along with throwing a fit over FF being maintained by others beyond their release cycle. While I can see some of their stance it is a bit of a snub to the Free software/Opensource community since they don't maintain patches for older releases of their software (ie. you need to upgrade to the next release instead). All corrections from knowledgible folks accepted. This is just my understanding of things.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby debianacm » 2010-08-16 18:51

Narcissistic wrote:
debianacm wrote:Why do we need to rename firefox on so many linux distro? LOL


Because some people from FF decided to get picky and change the licence agreement along with throwing a fit over FF being maintained by others beyond their release cycle. While I can see some of their stance it is a bit of a snub to the Free software/Opensource community since they don't maintain patches for older releases of their software (ie. you need to upgrade to the next release instead). All corrections from knowledgible folks accepted. This is just my understanding of things.


Yes. After reading the Wiki...

Well. Mozilla is a business.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby Narcissistic » 2010-08-17 06:35

What product or service do they sell? At the present, I am not aware of any that I have to pay for to be "legal" to use.

A quick search shows me to their home page where they say they are a project like any other open-source project. I did not see one piece of software for sale.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby stevepusser » 2010-08-17 14:54

Mozilla does make millions of dollars by including the Google search box....i.e.: http://techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/mozill ... r-3-years/
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby jheaton5 » 2010-08-17 18:50

And the beat goes on...the beat goes on.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby Ultra Magnus » 2010-09-17 10:55

How about Swiftfox? :wink:
It's a clone of firefox in my opinion. everything "firefox" is the same. Give it a try.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby MeanDean » 2010-09-17 11:12

coming up on nine pages...
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby craigevil » 2010-09-17 17:33

Do we really need to continue this thread. Enough information has been provided to explain the how, why and what.

Iceweasel = Firefox
Icedove = Thunderbird
Iceape = Seamonkey

Why? See:
Mozilla Corporation software rebranded by the Debian project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Co ... an_project

glandium.org » Blog Archive » Facts about Debian and Mozilla® Firefox® : http://glandium.org/blog/?p=97

Debian and Mozilla - a study in trademarks [LWN.net] : http://lwn.net/Articles/118268/

Debian Social Contract : http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

Iceweasel and User Agents : http://www.geticeweasel.org/useragent/

Iceweasel - Debian Wiki : http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
What is iceweasel?

Iceweasel is a fork [from Firefox] with the following purpose :

1) backporting of security fixes to declared Debian stable version.
2) no inclusion of trademarked Mozilla artwork (because of #1 above)
Beyond that, they will be basically identical. (quoting Roberto C. Sanchez post in debian-devel mailing list)

Also note that iceweasel is NOT Iceweasel from http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/.
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