Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby resolv_25 » 2009-11-17 07:51

It is not difficult to manually install Firefox as explained johnwaynegoodin.
iceweasel and Firefox are not the same. Any web developer will notice the difference.
There are features on firefox that are not working on Iceweasel.
Firefox is widespread and the best supported, and much better and easier life would be to
use this browser.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby bugsbunny » 2009-11-18 14:49

There are features on firefox that are not working on Iceweasel.
Such as?
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby BioTube » 2009-11-19 01:20

APNG.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby bugsbunny » 2009-11-19 22:42

BioTube wrote:APNG.

shh - that's the only one I know of. And it's easy enough to recompile xulrunner if you you really want it. As to why see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486209
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby trey » 2009-12-25 22:07

Why couldn't the Debian Developers just put Firefox in non-free? I understand that some people don't want to use non-free software, but for those people, why do your ethics let you use something from Mozilla anyway? The default desktop environments from Debian can use what they already have instead -- GNOME already has Epiphany (my favorite), KDE has Konqueror, and then there is Midori for lightweight environments such as XFCE and LXDE, and others stlil.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby BioTube » 2009-12-25 22:47

Because the only problem is the artwork and the name. No need to put something in non-free over a quick fix.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby widz » 2009-12-25 23:12

The thing is that apparently it's not that easy - just keep track on the speed with which the iceweasel package is updated in squeeze and sid. :)
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby sir fer » 2010-01-04 09:21

I see here (http://adblockplus.org/en/installation) it says that the latest version of adblockplus requires firefox/iceweasel 3.0.12 or later to work, something you ain't gonna see in Lenny anytime soon I suspect. When I used Iceweasel in Lenny and came across this issue, I just used a hosts file instead...have a look here http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm to get started.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby craigevil » 2010-01-04 11:11

sir fer wrote:I see here (http://adblockplus.org/en/installation) it says that the latest version of adblockplus requires firefox/iceweasel 3.0.12 or later to work, something you ain't gonna see in Lenny anytime soon I suspect. When I used Iceweasel in Lenny and came across this issue, I just used a hosts file instead...have a look here http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm to get started.


iceweasel in stable is the same as Firefox 3.0.16, the security fixes are in xulrunner-1.9 (1.9.0.16-1). It is simple enough to change the version number or to override compatability for an extension. I have been using CopyURL+ since firefox 1.0 at ever update I just override it so it works with the new version of firefox.

In about:config just change general.useragent.extra.firefox;Firefox/3.5.6 to whatever version of Firefox you need.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby The Toxic Mite » 2010-01-10 16:30

Do any applications depend on Iceweasel? I'd rather have Firefox than the former. :|
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby Qew » 2010-01-10 20:15

The Toxic Mite wrote:Do any applications depend on Iceweasel? I'd rather have Firefox than the former. :|


In a console (no need for root): aptitude search ~D'^iceweasel$'

Anything with i at the beginning of the line is installed on your system; p means it's not.

Oh, and you might want to prune it even more with aptitude search ~D'^xulrunner-1.9$' which will find all those apps that depend on xulrunner-1.9 to see if you can get rid of that, too.

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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby oldboy » 2010-01-13 02:03

Something strange is happening in my desktop. I went into BNN.ca to watch top picks just now, and Iceweasel waited and waited, no video at all. I used my laptop, and it played immediately (using Google Chrome).

So, I switched to Google Chrome on my desktop, and it played right away. Something is fishing with Iceweasel?
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby craigevil » 2010-01-13 04:43

oldboy wrote:Something strange is happening in my desktop. I went into BNN.ca to watch top picks just now, and Iceweasel waited and waited, no video at all. I used my laptop, and it played immediately (using Google Chrome).

So, I switched to Google Chrome on my desktop, and it played right away. Something is fishing with Iceweasel?

Works just fine in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 , if you continue to have issues please start a new thread.
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby harrycaul » 2010-01-22 17:37

sir fer wrote:I see here (http://adblockplus.org/en/installation) it says that the latest version of adblockplus requires firefox/iceweasel 3.0.12 or later to work, something you ain't gonna see in Lenny anytime soon I suspect. When I used Iceweasel in Lenny and came across this issue, I just used a hosts file instead...have a look here http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm to get started.

Here's a script that's helpful for hosts file: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/linux-bl ... owser.html
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su mv /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.orig
su wget -c http://zelut.org/projects/misc/hosts -O /etc/hosts

(orig. from http://zelut.org/)
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Re: Why is there no Firefox in Debian?

Postby sir fer » 2010-02-24 00:11

Thanks craigevil and harrycaul, very interesting about changing the version name for compatibility.

Using Firefox 3.6 at the moment on lenny + backports with vlc1.0.1 thanks to a number of helpful threads here.

Swiftfox is another good option as well.
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