cynwulf wrote:The last time I saw the really jagged fonts in Debian, I was running either etch or lenny - since squeeze there have been no font rendering problems which could not be easily solved by installing your chosen fonts, setting the font DPI, enabling the lcd subpixel rendering thingie and adjusting the hinting level.
mindflash wrote:Most people in the world don't use computers to have work done, nor find a better looking screen getting in the way of anything. Abviously you suffer of the same case of the other elitists in most distros
It is so nice to have something that is not bloated in any way and have documentation about fixes and configurations.
mindflash wrote:I have tinkered with this a lot sinze Squeeze and I was never satisfied with fonts, until Wheezy came out with updated packages that deal with font rendering, and I enabled the "lcddefault" thing. I can understand that your hardware might work well with things like they currently are, but you gotta agree that "my experience" is not "everyone's experience". There are multiples users reporting insatisfaction with this, some failing to find a fix. I have found a fix that look good to me, but it is hard to get distro developers to listen when all we get from the community are replies from the people that want to know it better by denying any problem that don't apply to them.
mindflash wrote:Please, don't work against free software by doing this, no one is asking Debian to become Ubuntu, we only want to make it work better for us, out of the box. It's not like you will be forced to have good fonts that don't look as bad as you like them, you obviously have knowledge to deteriorate fonts the way you like it, while the ignorant and casual users will be satisfied by not having to learn the fix like I did. Basically it is just a default that could be enabled by changing a configuration file that could be packed in GNOME. But obviously this isn't done because there is a lack of Debian developers interested in polishing it for the casual user that would be very happy to have a better out-of-the-box experience (aka "Microsoft Windows replacement").
mindflash wrote:But maybe in years things will change, I tested Sid the other day and I found out that plymouth is running by default (at least when building a live CD), things like that are the way to go, since advanced users that hate cosmetics can already do a netinstall and build everything the way they like it, while letting the regular people that use computers for leisure have a nice looking, easy to use and great operating system like Debian available to them.
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