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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby tsujan » 2016-05-23 23:22

A screencast that shows how smoothly Compiz-0.8.12.3 works with LXQt under Debian Testing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/779 ... z-lxqt.mkv
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby swirler » 2016-08-23 14:27

Is there any work being done to reintroduce Compiz in the official Debian repositories?

tsujan wrote:Believe it or not, Compiz still works smoothly under Debian Testing :)

Yesterday I felt nostalgic for it. Google led me to Arch pages as usual. I grabbed Arch PKGBUILD files and patches for Compiz-0.9.12.2 and Emerald-0.9.5 and started the hard job of patching, changing and compiling without much hope. But,to my surprise, not only the compilation finished successfully but also Compiz worked smoothly under LXQt (my preferred DE)!.

A tad too much for me...

tsujan wrote:I think Compiz will work until Wayland comes.


I may be wrong, but after reading a bit about Wayland, looks like Compiz would be not entirely out of the question - at least, in theory.

BTW: I know that people usually refer to Compiz as "eye candy", and it surely is ... but, apart from the fact that I see nothing wrong in having a nice desktop environment (well, people running servers or headless machines may object to this), I think it also helps when working with multiple desktops (workspaces), because some of its features make dragging windows between desktops way easier, or quickly finding a particular window among many others and so on.

I'm a bit "upset" that Ubuntu still has it, meaning : if they can make it work, why Debian can't ?
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby stevepusser » 2016-08-23 19:05

You can try 8.4, the same version that Kanotix ships with, from my multimedia Jessie OBS repo: https://software.opensuse.org/download. ... ackage=mpv

It needed a few patches to build on Jessie. It doesn't need any of the other backported multimedia applications in that repo, I just added it because I was too lazy to set up yet another separate OBS repo. :?

You should install compiz, and suggested packages are emerald, emerald-themes, metacity, and compiz-plugins-unsupported for more effects. Since there's no configuration file, you need to use the CCSM setup manager to configure it first (use fusion-icon to make this easier) per the Arch wiki for compiz.

This is the version that still has the fire (burn) and beam-up effects, which were removed later.
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby deborah-and-ian » 2016-08-23 19:14

Compiz is kind of kept alive mainly for Unity until version 8 comes out which uses Mir to composite.
Ubuntu Mate and Mint patch their stuff to work with Compiz, but in none of the cases would I recommend using it.

Why not just use compton? At least it's in the Debian repos.
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby swirler » 2016-08-26 16:34

Is Compton comparable to Compiz? Does it have the same features/effects ?
I'm curious about it, but haven't tried yet (UbuntuMate also has Compton available by default, but I couldn't see any desktop effects at all when switching to it, while using a live CD) .

When I said that Ubuntu/Mint still have Compiz I wasn't thinking at all about stuffing their versions into Debian (although I'm sure someone has tried it, with who knows what results), I simply meant, if *they* can make it work after all, why not Debian ?

And let's not forget that Compiz, based on what I've seen in a short live session, also works really well (I'd say surprisingly well) in Knoppix, and that is based on Debian as well - I'm not sure about this, but maybe Knoppix is even more closely tied to Debian than Ubuntu is ?

BTW, it lately occurred to me that Compiz has yet another feature that I'm really missing, not anything fancy or spectacular at all, but something truly useful IMO : smart windows placing.
I was used to open as many windows as I wanted and they would get automatically placed so that wouldn't cover each other (within the limits of available screen space,of course) : now without Compiz sometimes I'll just open two windows and they will instantly cover each other, requiring manual placement.That really sucks.
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby deborah-and-ian » 2016-08-26 19:01

swirler wrote:Is Compton comparable to Compiz? Does it have the same features/effects ?

Nope. Just transparencies and shadows AFAIK.
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Re: Compiz in Debian testing.

Postby tsujan » 2016-10-14 20:02

tsujan wrote:Believe it or not, Compiz still works smoothly under Debian Testing :)

Yesterday I felt nostalgic for it. Google led me to Arch pages as usual. I grabbed Arch PKGBUILD files and patches for Compiz-0.9.12.2 and Emerald-0.9.5 and started the hard job of patching, changing and compiling without much hope. But,to my surprise, not only the compilation finished successfully but also Compiz worked smoothly under LXQt (my preferred DE)!.

A tad too much for me...


Compiz-reloaded (https://github.com/compiz-reloaded) works fine and is in the repositories of some distros. I can't think of a good reason why it shouldn't be in Debian's repositories.

BTW, compiling and making deb packages from compiz-reloaded is relatively straightforward -- it doesn't need patching.
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