Not exactly. Stable has the Debian security team. In Sid updates come from the package maintainers and eventually get to Testing.HuangLao wrote:...Debian Sid and Stable have security updates.
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable# ... updates.3F
Not exactly. Stable has the Debian security team. In Sid updates come from the package maintainers and eventually get to Testing.HuangLao wrote:...Debian Sid and Stable have security updates.
sunrat wrote:Not exactly. Stable has the Debian security team. In Sid updates come from the package maintainers and eventually get to Testing.HuangLao wrote:...Debian Sid and Stable have security updates.
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable# ... updates.3F
Purely pedantic point: Testing, not sid.bdtc1 wrote:the most popular/important newer stuff is pre-packaged specifically for use with Stable, often right from SID.
Difference between bug and vulnerabilty.ruffwoof wrote:But does not Debian Stable contain many bugs, but that aren't considered as being security risks and as such don't get fixed, just recorded. Hundreds in Jessie for instance.
I wouldn't say Ubuntu 16.04 was "a piece of garbage". I ran Ubuntu 16.04 LTS for several weeks at the beginning of this year and had no problems with it whatsoever. I personally think - in terms of stability, usability and for those learning Linux - it's an excellent distro.mfv wrote:Now when it comes to stability I have to say it is a piece of garbage.
That's what it sounds like to me too.sunrat wrote:I'm no fan of Ubuntu but your crashes are possibly due to some incompatibilities introduced by packages you installed or configuration rather than Ubuntu itself.
Yeah, it's very easy to misconfigure packages in Ubuntu through the misuse of PPAs, 3rd party repos and whatnot. You have to know what you want and not suffer with the shiny new stuff syndrome. Numerous times I have people who added that PPA just because they want a newer version of some software as it's released and ended up with their packages messed up when the PPA froze upon an upgrade. Perhaps Snaps (or Flatpaks) can fix this but it's too early to say.Lysander wrote:mfv wrote:That's what it sounds like to me too.sunrat wrote:I'm no fan of Ubuntu but your crashes are possibly due to some incompatibilities introduced by packages you installed or configuration rather than Ubuntu itself.
Go for Testing, and forget about backporting and old apps. One advice, before to go for testing, I would wait for some months (4-6) before the switch, its recommendable to wait for some time before the system settle down first updates. With debian testing i would schedule updates once/twice per month, its continuously updating itself.mfv wrote:I think I'll give "testing" a try. It sounds reasonable. I have never used it in a production system because of fear of instability and the notion that it's not, well, stable. But after Ubuntu...
I think that what they may have gotten right with the dreadful PPAs is that you don't want to update all your system to use a single piece of software. And if you are an end user, family desktop pc, you don't want to sit and compile the latest qt to get X application running.
Does testing get "broken" more often in terms of packages? Should I hand pick what to update or should I update everything everyday? Did you ever have to do a complete system re-install because of this?
Thanks for the constructive input.
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