aha! chroot much?As a follow-up this is my /etc/apt/sources.list file in the new installation (stretch): Code: Select all ~$ cat /mnt/Debian9/etc/apt/*.list
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My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
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Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
Icedove is just a dummy package that depends on Thunderbird
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/icedove
This is so existing installs with icedove continue to work as expected.
Presumably the new tbird package install script checks for presence of an existing .icedove profile folder and links to it if found too.
You need to provide some relevant info if you want any helpful help - your descriptions of your setup are pretty unclear.
What has your Stretch install got to do with your old Jessie install?
You don't mention sharing a /home partition so the two should be completely independant.
Even so, it looks like your existing icedove profile is still there, but why it would be affected by a fresh install on a separate partition remains a mystery.
At the moment it just looks like user error to me.
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/icedove
This is so existing installs with icedove continue to work as expected.
Presumably the new tbird package install script checks for presence of an existing .icedove profile folder and links to it if found too.
You need to provide some relevant info if you want any helpful help - your descriptions of your setup are pretty unclear.
What has your Stretch install got to do with your old Jessie install?
You don't mention sharing a /home partition so the two should be completely independant.
Even so, it looks like your existing icedove profile is still there, but why it would be affected by a fresh install on a separate partition remains a mystery.
At the moment it just looks like user error to me.
AdrianTM wrote:There's no hacker in my grandma...
Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
It may be "user error" but that's what I'm here for -- to figure out what the error was so I can correct it. So here's more info on my setup.
That's from stretch. Formerly, I used /dev/sda as my home directory -- mounted on /home in jessie-gnome (/dev/sdd6). It still retains my old /home directory. Now, that volume is unlinked which I guess explains why it doesn't appear in the above list. Presumably, it wasn't mounted when I installed thunderbird -- see below.
jessie-lxde is on /dev/sdd5; stretch-xfce4 is on /dev/sdd6. Two days ago -- before the stretch installation -- jessie-gnome was on /dev/sdd6. The email programs on the two different desktops and on the two different volumes were identical. It didn't matter which desktop I happened to be on; I had the same info to hand.
During installation the only action I took with respect to /dev/sdd6 was to wipe it. After installation the only action I took was installation of audacious and thunderbird. Now when I click the icedove icon in jessie-lxde (there is no thunderbird icon), the email program appears without my old folders, my copies of older emails, or my old address book. Those features are also missing in thunderbird on stretch-xfce4.
So what was my error?
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df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev
tmpfs 383M 11M 373M 3% /run
/dev/sdd6 10G 2.5G 7.1G 26% /
tmpfs 1.9G 12M 1.9G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sdb3 3.9G 3.6G 82M 98% /mnt/KNOPPIX
/dev/sdb1 4.1G 1.6G 2.6G 38% /mnt/WD400_Vol1
/dev/sdd5 833G 64G 753G 8% /mnt/Jessie
/dev/sdb5 30G 25G 4.6G 85% /mnt/WD400_Vol3
/dev/sdc2 105G 80G 26G 77% /mnt/SATA_VOL2
/dev/sdc1 128G 90G 39G 71% /mnt/Windows
/dev/sdd1 75G 44G 32G 59% /mnt/XP-Oregon
tmpfs 383M 4.0K 383M 1% /run/user/108
tmpfs 383M 8.0K 383M 1% /run/user/1000
jessie-lxde is on /dev/sdd5; stretch-xfce4 is on /dev/sdd6. Two days ago -- before the stretch installation -- jessie-gnome was on /dev/sdd6. The email programs on the two different desktops and on the two different volumes were identical. It didn't matter which desktop I happened to be on; I had the same info to hand.
During installation the only action I took with respect to /dev/sdd6 was to wipe it. After installation the only action I took was installation of audacious and thunderbird. Now when I click the icedove icon in jessie-lxde (there is no thunderbird icon), the email program appears without my old folders, my copies of older emails, or my old address book. Those features are also missing in thunderbird on stretch-xfce4.
So what was my error?
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Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
Not knowing where your mail data is and not understanding your own needlessly complex setup.Ellen1910 wrote:So what was my error?
Ellen1910 wrote: I used /dev/sda as my home directory -- mounted on /home in jessie-gnome (/dev/sdd6). It still retains my old /home directory. Now, that volume is unlinked which I guess explains why it doesn't appear
How?Ellen1910 wrote: It didn't matter which desktop I happened to be on; I had the same info to hand.
That doesn't happen by magic, you had to set that up.
Where is this?
Ellen1910 wrote:this 692 MB folder?Code: Select all
~$ ls /home/ellen/.icedove/au82l5l7.default/ImapMail/mail.centurylink.net Archives.msf Family.sbd Paid Bills Trash Cars INBOX Paid Bills.msf Trash.msf ...
Of course - it's a fresh install - how would your old data get there?Ellen1910 wrote:During installation the only action I took with respect to /dev/sdd6 was to wipe it. After installation the only action I took was installation of audacious and thunderbird. Now when I click the icedove icon in jessie-lxde (there is no thunderbird icon), the email program appears without my old folders, my copies of older emails, or my old address book.
So what did you change in that install?Those features are also missing in thunderbird on stretch-xfce4.
AdrianTM wrote:There's no hacker in my grandma...
Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
One man's "needlessly complicated setup" is another woman's "security blanket." Each time I add a hard drive, I install fresh copies of whatever operating systems I've been using and begin using that new hard drive as my active system. I keep the old hard drives in place as 1) security (they proved they worked in the recent past) and 2) history (I mount them because, then, I have quick access to that history). What's a few lines in /etc/fstab, and I don't require elegance (usually, no one else sees my system setup but me).
My old mail data -- the 692MB folder -- is on /dev/sdd5 (jessie) and holds the old ImapMail sub-folder which, at the moment, isn't doing me any good.
My complaint is that when I asked apt to install thunderbird on my new stretch installation (on /dev/sdd6) the installer complied, but it also reached out and messed with my icedove email program on /dev/sdd5. It created a new folder called kovaoodr.default. There is no ImapMail sub-folder under kovaoodr.default.
Thankfully, it left the original folder (au82l5l7.default) in place, and that folder does have an ImapMail folder.
Please. Tell me how to get reconnected with au82l5l7.default.
My old mail data -- the 692MB folder -- is on /dev/sdd5 (jessie) and holds the old ImapMail sub-folder which, at the moment, isn't doing me any good.
My complaint is that when I asked apt to install thunderbird on my new stretch installation (on /dev/sdd6) the installer complied, but it also reached out and messed with my icedove email program on /dev/sdd5. It created a new folder called kovaoodr.default. There is no ImapMail sub-folder under kovaoodr.default.
Thankfully, it left the original folder (au82l5l7.default) in place, and that folder does have an ImapMail folder.
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ls -l /mnt/Jessie/home/ellen/.icedove/
total 16
drwx------ 10 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 12 05:38 au82l5l7.default
drwx------ 4 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 13 14:05 Crash Reports
drwx------ 6 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 13 16:16 kovaoodr.default
-rw-r--r-- 1 ellen ellen 104 Nov 12 19:09 profiles.ini
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Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
Based on what you have claimed previously in this thread, that is impossible.Ellen1910 wrote:My complaint is that when I asked apt to install thunderbird on my new stretch installation (on /dev/sdd6) the installer complied, but it also reached out and messed with my icedove email program on /dev/sdd5. It created a new folder called kovaoodr.default. There is no ImapMail sub-folder under kovaoodr.default.
It's a problem of your own making, that you have avoided providing any evidence for, that could help us help you.
Edit profiles.iniEllen1910 wrote:Please. Tell me how to get reconnected with au82l5l7.default.
AdrianTM wrote:There's no hacker in my grandma...
Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
It may not have been magic, but I didn't set it up -- not within my competence to do.Ellen1910 wrote:
I used /dev/sda as my home directory -- mounted on /home in jessie-gnome (/dev/sdd6). It still retains my old /home directory. Now, that volume is unlinked which I guess explains why it doesn't appear
Ellen1910 wrote:
It didn't matter which desktop I happened to be on; I had the same info to hand.
How?
That doesn't happen by magic, you had to set that up.
I installed jessie-gnome and icedove (sdd6) first. Sometime later I installed jessie-lxde and icedove (sdd5). From then on, the two mail programs appeared to be mirror images of each other. Icedove on jessie-gnome (sdd6) and icedove on jessie-lxde (sdd5) always had the identically named mail folders -- au82l5l7.default. And here they are today. [/mnt/LXDE is the old /home folder on jessie-gnome; /home/ellen is on jessie-lxde]
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ls -l /mnt/LXDE/oldhiddenfiles/.icedove
total 12
drwx------ 10 ellen ellen 4096 Oct 31 13:03 au82l5l7.default
drwx------ 4 ellen ellen 4096 Oct 11 18:25 Crash Reports
-rw-r--r-- 1 ellen ellen 94 Jul 8 2015 profiles.ini
ellen@topos:~$ ls -l /home/ellen/.icedove
total 16
drwx------ 10 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 12 05:38 au82l5l7.default
drwx------ 4 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 13 14:05 Crash Reports
drwx------ 6 ellen ellen 4096 Nov 13 16:16 kovaoodr.default
-rw-r--r-- 1 ellen ellen 104 Nov 12 19:09 profiles.ini
Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
So -- you tell me. How did the new folder <kovaoodr.default> get created and wind up in jessie-lxde's icedove profile.dilberts_left_nut wrote:Based on what you have claimed previously in this thread, that is impossible.Ellen1910 wrote:My complaint is that when I asked apt to install thunderbird on my new stretch installation (on /dev/sdd6) the installer complied, but it also reached out and messed with my icedove email program on /dev/sdd5. It created a new folder called kovaoodr.default. There is no ImapMail sub-folder under kovaoodr.default.
It's a problem of your own making, that you have avoided providing any evidence for, that could help us help you.Edit profiles.iniEllen1910 wrote:Please. Tell me how to get reconnected with au82l5l7.default.
BTW -- thanks for the "Edit profiles.ini" heads up. Much appreciated. I simply substituted au82l5l7 for kovaoodr in the Path entry in profiles.ini, and I've got everything back.
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Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
Sorry, I have no interest in playing "guess what I did, but didn't tell you about".
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Re: My emails, folders, address book are gone. Help!
If you check out articles about migrating Thunderbird to a new computer, such as https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mo ... w-computer , I think it you will see it is fairly straightforward to fix your problem. (If I am understanding the problem correctly - this thread is pretty long.)
You haven't moved to a new computer, but the concept is the same.
The gist of the process is to copy all of the contents of the "old" Thunderbird profile directory into the "new" profile directory that was created by the new installation of Thunderbird. In one of your (OP's) posts, you mentioned
You haven't moved to a new computer, but the concept is the same.
The gist of the process is to copy all of the contents of the "old" Thunderbird profile directory into the "new" profile directory that was created by the new installation of Thunderbird. In one of your (OP's) posts, you mentioned
That's the "old" Thunderbird profile directory, the contents of which need to be copied.~$ ls -l /home/ellen/.icedove/au82l5l7.default