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Mate menu editors - none worked at all, in Debian v9.5.0.

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Mate menu editors - none worked at all, in Debian v9.5.0.

#1 Post by scruffyeagle »

I just installed Debian v9.5.0 w/ the Mate desktop. So far, I've been quite pleased, with a few exceptions. For example "Totem" doesn't show up anywhere in the menus. I dl'd it, installed it, and have used it via directly running it. I've even been able to assign it as the default video player - but it won't show up anywhere in the Mate menus. (Is Mate refusing to show it because it's a Gnome program?) Apart from launchers not showing up, the menu categorization scheme is inept, so I wanted to edit & improve it. That effort got nowhere fast. I've dl'd 3 different menu editors, and none of them work. I've managed to make a new "Files" directory/folder/category for file utilities - but, after making the folder, none of the 3 allow it to be moved for re-ordering sequence. The up/down buttons are non-functional, and click/drag has no effect. It clicks, it dags a line, but nothing gets moved. And, the new folder doesn't show up in the actual "Applications" menu in the menu bar at all. Not even after logging out & then back in.

I've run through my normal bag of tricks (which aren't that many), and didn't find a solution via online search. Maybe, this is already in the queue for the Mate team to fix?
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Re: Mate menu editors - none worked at all, in Debian v9.5.0

#2 Post by arochester »

Mate menu editors - none worked at all
Which Mate menu editors have you tried? When you say " none worked" what exactly happened with each?

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#3 Post by Dai_trying »

scruffyeagle wrote:snip...
I dl'd it, installed it, and have used it via directly running it.
What you probably should have done is simply installed it via apt (or apt-get/synaptic/aptitude/whatever package manager you choose) and everything would be configured for you. This usually leads to less issues.

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#4 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

scruffyeagle wrote:the menu categorization scheme is inept, so I wanted to edit & improve it.
Most menu systems work via the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications and this behavior can be over-ridden by copying the .desktop files to ~/.local/share/applications and modifying them as required.

More here: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ ... c-1.0.html

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#5 Post by dcihon »

I use a Mate menu editor called mozo:
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mozo

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#6 Post by scruffyeagle »

arochester wrote:
Mate menu editors - none worked at all
Which Mate menu editors have you tried? When you say " none worked" what exactly happened with each?
There are 2 titled "Main Menu", which have differing pop-up descriptions. I made the assumption that this indicates they're actually different programs. The 3rd was "Menu Editor". Exactly what happened, is what I wrote after "I managed"...
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Re: Mate menu editors - none worked at all, in Debian v9.5.0

#7 Post by scruffyeagle »

Dai_trying wrote:
scruffyeagle wrote:snip...
I dl'd it, installed it, and have used it via directly running it.
What you probably should have done is simply installed it via apt (or apt-get/synaptic/aptitude/whatever package manager you choose) and everything would be configured for you. This usually leads to less issues.
I almost always dl' & install using Synaptic. The only times I haven't done it that way, is when I've resorted to directly dl'ing tarballs.
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#8 Post by scruffyeagle »

dcihon wrote:I use a Mate menu editor called mozo:
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mozo
Yes, Synaptic shows that as having been dl'd & installed. I didn't have any success with that one, either.
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#9 Post by bw123 »

Did you read the link that HoaS posted? There is a specification for the freedesktop menu system, does the spec allow for creating new categories, or reordering the menu in the way you want?
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#10 Post by scruffyeagle »

bw123 wrote:Did you read the link that HoaS posted? There is a specification for the freedesktop menu system, does the spec allow for creating new categories, or reordering the menu in the way you want?
Wow - that's a LOT of heavy reading. I'll need to work my way through it, as & when time allows. Thanks for drawing my attention to it. And, my thanks to HoaS for the link.
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