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Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-09-05 20:27

Just a heads up, Firefox 52 ESR reached EOL today.
You should expect Debian to update the package anytime soon. My advice is to remove all extensions installed via packages you may have, and replace them with web versions, since they won't be compatible with new ESR release.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby milomak » 2018-09-05 20:35

this is going to anger so many people
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby stevepusser » 2018-09-05 21:51

The rustc and cargo needed to build it are still mostly missing from Stretch, so I'm not holding my breath...though I can see their changes files in proposed-updates: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stre ... d-updates/
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby CwF » 2018-09-05 22:53

I just moved my vm base to 52.9 a month ago. I have no intention on changing that until next August.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby stevepusser » 2018-09-06 00:26

Looks like the debs (deb9uX) for rustc 1.24 and cargo 0.25 are all ready to go:

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cargo/
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rustc/

Hmmm... let me install those, "apt-get source firefox" (ver. 61.0.1) from Sid, and see how it builds on a Stretch base.

Edit: it wants backports of libnss3, libnspr4, and libsqlite3 from Sid, but I think I know how to tell Firefox to build and use its internal versions of those instead. I wonder how the Debian backporter will handle the same issue.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-06 13:19

Wheelerof4te wrote:My advice is to remove all extensions installed via packages you may have, and replace them with web versions, since they won't be compatible with new ESR release.

Not exactly said. For example, if extensions were installed from official Debian repositories (for example, NoScript), they will also be upgraded and compatible with Firefox-esr 60.1
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-09-06 13:46

^But they won't. Traditional XUL extensions will be dropped from repos. Reason is that they are too outdated, and will not work with new ESR.

You can get most extensions from the web store.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby stevepusser » 2018-09-06 17:12

Hmmm--I was able to backport Thunderbird 60 from Sid using the newer tools and switching to a llvm-4.0 toolchain build, along with building internal versions of newer libs that it wanted, but my Firefox builds fail using the same strategy. I need to do more investigation.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby kopper » 2018-09-07 06:08

Another perfectly valid option in my opinion is to download the tar from Mozilla and run it from your home folder. Just create a symlink e.g. in /usr/local/bin to Firefox executable. You can create shortcut in whatever DE/WM you have.

There are of course downsides, which include not having debian -specific security patches (you need to rely on upstream updates by Mozilla). You could try running firejail with it, though I haven't tried that just yet. With this method, there's no package manager control over the browser, either.

Upside is, that there is no need to backport anything and you get the latest Firefox. At least for me it improved user experience a lot. Lagging stopped, support for video streaming improved a lot even with quite restrictive add-ons I have installed, and overall responsiveness of browser took a huge leap. My personal recommendation is to use this until FF Quantum is properly supported by stable. But each to their own.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby pylkko » 2018-09-07 08:36

...but what fun is that? :P
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby kopper » 2018-09-07 09:29

pylkko wrote:...but what fun is that?

If you refer to my suggestion, I'd say not much from tinkerers' point of view. Just thought that if there are others like me who'd like some things to "just work"™, this would be one way to do it. :D

Solution isn't particularly novel, it has been mentioned at least couple of times in other threads.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-09-07 10:53

It is indeed a known option mentioned more than few times on this forum.
kopper wrote:There are of course downsides, which include not having debian -specific security patches

I don't think Debian is patching Firefox ESR much now, that patching was a reason for Mozilla/Debian dispute in the past (hence Iceweasel/Icedove). I believe the Security team only uploads new ESR point version once it's released upstream.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-07 13:55

Wheelerof4te wrote:^But they won't. Traditional XUL extensions will be dropped from repos. Reason is that they are too outdated, and will not work with new ESR.

Ok. Let's take for example NoScript. In Debian Sid Firefox-esr is 60.2.0esr-1 version. The version of NoScript in Debian Sid is 5.1.7-1. This version is fully compatible with the new Firefox-esr version. This means that it has been updated.
Wheelerof4te wrote:You can get most extensions from the web store.

Yes, you can.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-09-07 14:17

I meant the XUL extensions in Stable. This entire thread concerns Debian Stable, current Stretch. XUL packages in Stretch are outdated, and will not work, nor will be updated in Stretch.
Sid is a different story.
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Re: Firefox 52 ESR End of Life

Postby None1975 » 2018-09-07 14:34

Wheelerof4te wrote:XUL packages in Stretch are outdated, and will not work, nor will be updated in Stretch.

In Debian Stretch they will be upgraded. Together with Firefox-esr. I just do not know when.
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