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Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby DRAGSTER_TUNER » 2018-10-31 22:42

I made an

apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade

and now when the OS starts, stays all in black screen until i move the mouse....when i move the mouse, the screen turns on...but only if i move the mouse...pressing any key in the keyboard have no effect...

Using XFCE...

some clue?
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Dai_trying » 2018-10-31 22:50

install haveged and your problem will go away, if you check your syslog (/var/log/syslog) it will likely have a reference to random: crng init done around the time of the screen actually appearing followed by another reference of random regarding warnings, they seem to be nothing to be alarmed about but are due to missing "entropy" which can be provided by the haveged package.
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-11-01 05:39

DRAGSTER_TUNER wrote:apt-get dist-upgrade

^ Why did you use this command?

Were there packages left un-upgraded after the previous command?

Can we please see the output of
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apt policy

Thanks!
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Dai_trying » 2018-11-01 10:10

I'm assuming the OP is using the same system as per previous posts so the system is likely a Buster system with some stable packages (If I remember correctly), also I have only noticed OP's problem with Buster as Stretch does not seem to be affected the same way.
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby bw123 » 2018-11-01 14:51

I don't know what would result from dist-upgrade with deb-multimedia.org repo enabled in sources.list, did you fix this first?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=138869&p=683950#p683831
I never have used dist-upgrade, but I've read that is the thing to do on testing, not sure about frankendebian.
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby DRAGSTER_TUNER » 2018-11-02 21:26

Dai_trying wrote:install
bw123 wrote:haveged
haveged
and your problem will go away, if you check your syslog (/var/log/syslog) it will likely have a reference to random: crng init done around the time of the screen actually appearing followed by another reference of random regarding warnings, they seem to be nothing to be alarmed about but are due to missing "entropy" which can be provided by the haveged package.


Thanx a lot, just install haveged and its all ok now!

bw123 wrote:I don't know what would result from dist-upgrade with deb-multimedia.org repo enabled in sources.list, did you fix this first?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=138869&p=683950#p683831
I never have used dist-upgrade, but I've read that is the thing to do on testing, not sure about frankendebian.


You will not believe if i says i install ALL THE SYSTEM AGAIN, and....vlc stills hangs...


made and apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade, install vlc from snap and....

stills hangs!
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby DRAGSTER_TUNER » 2018-11-02 21:32

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
DRAGSTER_TUNER wrote:apt-get dist-upgrade

^ Why did you use this command?

Were there packages left un-upgraded after the previous command?

Yes, there was some packages the system upgraded just with the second comand...weird, but its aready happens before!

Can we please see the output of
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apt policy

Thanks!


root@supercharger:/home/supercharger# apt policy
Arquivos de pacote:
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
release a=now
500 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
release o=Vivaldi Technologies,a=stable,l=Official Vivaldi package repository,c=main,b=amd64
origin repo.vivaldi.com
500 http://repo.vivaldi.com/archive/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
release o=Vivaldi Technologies,a=stable,l=Official Vivaldi package repository,c=main,b=amd64
origin repo.vivaldi.com
500 http://debian.c3sl.ufpr.br/debian-multimedia testing/main amd64 Packages
release v=0.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=testing,n=buster,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main,b=amd64
origin debian.c3sl.ufpr.br
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/non-free amd64 Packages
release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
origin ftp.us.debian.org
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/contrib amd64 Packages
release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
origin ftp.us.debian.org
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
origin ftp.us.debian.org
Pacotes alfinetados ("pinned"):
root@supercharger:/home/supercharger#
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby debiman » 2018-11-03 10:25

^ this is very similar to what we criticized in your last thread!!!!

also, why in $DEITY's name did you install vlc with snap? why not just install vlc from the repos???
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby DRAGSTER_TUNER » 2018-11-03 12:24

debiman wrote:^ this is very similar to what we criticized in your last thread!!!!

also, why in $DEITY's name did you install vlc with snap? why not just install vlc from the repos???


well...the mistery was solved...theres nothing to do...i have to wait until a decent solution :x

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=70719
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby GarryRicketson » 2018-11-03 13:14

From the above link,
A significant number of VLC users on Debian and Ubuntu appear to be hit by bugs in the unofficial so-called Debian Multimedia repository (debian-multimedia.org).

This unofficial package repository is well known to introduce incompatibilities in the FFMPEG libraries. This causes VLC media player and possibly some other multimedia software to stop working, as the FFMPEG binary interface is silently broken. The members of the VideoLAN project as well as the official Debian Multimedia maintainers[1] strongly advise that you do not use the Debian Multimedia repository under any circumstances. Before you report problems with VLC on Debian or Ubuntu, make sure you have not installed any package from that repository.

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well...the mistery was solved

No mystery at all, that is what everyone here was trying to tell the OP, and not just the "multimedia", the OP also has Debian testing, mixed with Debian Stable, people should read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
And take it more seriously:
Don't make a FrankenDebian

Debian Stable should not be combined with other releases. If you're trying to install software that isn't available in the current Debian Stable release, it's not a good idea to add repositories for other Debian releases. The problems might not happen right away, but the next time you install updates.

The reason things can break is because the software packaged for one Debian release is built to be compatible with the rest of the software for that release. For example, installing packages from buster on a stretch system could also install newer versions of core libraries including libc6. This results in a system that is not testing or stable but a broken mix of the two.

Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:

Debian testing release (currently buster)
Debian unstable release (also known as sid)
Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!
Ubuntu PPAs

And why do we have 2 topics, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=138869&p=684150#p684150 on the same problem, ? it sure makes things confusing. After all said and done, it is another: I mixed and matched various repos, and now my FrankenDebian does not work: Repo mix-and-match hit parade
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Dai_trying » 2018-11-03 16:18

GarryRicketson wrote:And why do we have 2 topics, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=138869&p=684150#p684150 on the same problem, ? it sure makes things confusing. After all said and done, it is another: I mixed and matched various repos, and now my FrankenDebian does not work: Repo mix-and-match hit parade


I am pretty sure the OP has posted a different problem here to the other post you linked to, and the issue and solution (to this post) had already been posted before the OP stated they still have the VLC issue as a side note, so your ramblings about VLC issue would seem (to me at least) to be somewhat off-topic and trollish in content.
I know this is your usual type of post and does indeed carry some useful information but I fail to see how most of it pertains to this thread.

debiman wrote:also, why in $DEITY's name did you install vlc with snap? why not just install vlc from the repos???


Isn't this one of the major advantages of Linux over other OS's, we have a choice... I personally use the Debian repositories for 95% of all my software, but sometimes I try other things too (not on my production machine though).
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby bw123 » 2018-11-03 16:37

Dai_trying wrote:[... I fail to see how most of it pertains to this thread.
...


It pertains because using third party repos is always pertinent when asking for support?
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby GarryRicketson » 2018-11-03 19:55

I admit , I guess they are 2 different problems, but the cause of the problems is the same:
from the other thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=138869&p=684150#p684150
Postby DRAGSTER_TUNER » 2018-11-03 06:26

thanks for everyone whos help me out...

the issue actually was the debian multimedia repository...it was the guilty......

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=70719

Now i have to wait/find a solution from them


And then quoting from this thread:
DRAGSTER_TUNER wrote:
debiman wrote:^ this is very similar to what we criticized in your last thread!!!!

also, why in $DEITY's name did you install vlc with snap? why not just install vlc from the repos???


well...the mistery was solved...theres nothing to do...i have to wait until a decent solution :x

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=70719


The problems associated with mixing Debian versions and adding repos from random websites vary, but the cause of them is still the same.
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Dai_trying » 2018-11-03 21:32

GarryRicketson wrote:I admit , I guess they are 2 different problems, but the cause of the problems is the same:


If the cause of the issue of this post is repo mixing or using deb multimedia repo how come I have had this same issue on a "Pure Debian Buster" installation???
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Re: Black screen...X does not starts until i move the mouse

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-11-03 21:38

The cause of the problem in the OP is kernel-related, the haveged package is a work-around for an upstream issue, IIRC.

That the OP was running a FrankenDebian is a separate problem but also connected because the OP would not have experienced this problem with pure Debian stable.
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