Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

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Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby khelben1979 » 2018-12-02 15:29

Ever since I let my Debian system upgrade my Mozilla Firefox up to Firefox 60.3 ESR, graphics performance with it has turned it pretty much useless for
anything other than bank transactions where I don't need performance, only security. I have read on these forums that it's something about the javascript
file which contains within the new Firefox profile. It would take me half a day to just go through everything with that to get a sense of what they have
done, so I'm asking you here instead, is there any way to fix this without downgrading Firefox version < 60? I'm using Debian Jessie and I did not have
these issues with Firefox 59.

I have a local installation of Firefox 63 installed, but that has always been slow due to not properly using the graphics settings from my system. Out
of curiosity I tested it, and as expected still the same issues as Firefox 60.3 ESR.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-12-02 15:39

khelben1979 wrote:I have a local installation of Firefox 63 installed, but that has always been slow due to not properly using the graphics settings from my system

That really shouldn't happen, my graphics stack is properly supported if I run FF from $HOME on my Debian testing system.

You should share your hardware and drivers, that may clarify things:
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lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d'

Please also confirm that you have installed any non-free firmware that may be required.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby khelben1979 » 2018-12-02 15:53

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:9874] (rev c5)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:80b5]
Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci


AMD drivers is properly installed and works with all my applications, except this new Firefox. I am using backports, that way I managed
to get the new version through my old Debian 8 system. What happens when I scroll up and down inside the Firefox, even with a page
with only text, the speed of it is perhaps 100 times slower than with Chromium right now. Now I have no idea exactly why, I also tried
to enable and disable graphics acceleration setting from within Firefox, and that did not help either.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-12-02 15:59

khelben1979 wrote:I also tried to enable and disable graphics acceleration setting from within Firefox, and that did not help either.

Yeah, that's a placebo knob that Mozilla have put in to mock GNU/Linux users, it doesn't do a ${DEITY}damned thing... :x

Have you tried the non-proprietary drivers?

That fglrx driver is obsolete, AFAIK.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby piper » 2018-12-03 23:35

Have you tried after you disabled graphics acceleration setting from within firefox to also do

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about:config


and in the search type

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webgl.disabled


and toggle that to true

I have some old 2 core amd machines that run firefox nightly like butter without this setting.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby khelben1979 » 2018-12-04 10:59

I tried to disable webgl which made it even slower, when I thought it couldn't go slower. ;-)

I can only conclude that Firefox is dead as web browser over here, at least for me. I can use it for bank transactions
because that seems the only useful thing left for it now. And as for installing another graphics driver and test with that,
I seriously doubt it would change anything. Also, AMDGPU installation lacks a graphical settings that I need to force
my computer to use my AMD graphics chipset and not the AMD graphics card, because it get too hot and it's loud!

I might get a new SSD harddisk eventually and install the new version of Debian, a new clean and fresh install.
That way I don't need to mess with this system, because sometimes things go wrong, and I don't have a
backup system, besides a really old computer which can be used for Internet and things like that, but no good
replacement. I read something about blacklisting the AMD graphics card after you have upgraded the Linux
distribution, and I know about that, so it seems it can be done, but I don't dare to do it at this point. I'm the guy
who just wants a working system, and I won't even do updates many times because I don't want to mess it up.
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby piper » 2018-12-04 11:55

I don't use ssd drives at the moment, but I also don't use debian's firefox/thunderbird, (both nightly) instead, I get them directly from mozilla.

I have 2 older identical systems (same motherboard, cpu, ram) like this (one uses amd, one uses nvidia video card)

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System:    Host: x2 Kernel: 4.18.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Console: tty 2 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: M61PM-S2 serial: <root required> BIOS: Award v: F8 date: 10/05/2007
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 1024 KiB
           Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 1000/2200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1000 2: 1000
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550] driver: radeon v: kernel
           Display: server: X.org 1.20.3 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa


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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby khelben1979 » 2018-12-04 15:55

When I'm thinking more about this, it must have been a few years ago I actually compiled Firefox. Even when you download it from the Mozilla website you still get binaries. So maybe there's still hope to get some speed out of this? Any recommendations for good parameters to add some extra speed for the compile flag?
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Re: Firefox 60 ESR performance issues

Postby khelben1979 » 2018-12-04 21:13

I uninstalled Firefox 60 ESR version and the new version of Firefox (version 63) is working much better now! I still haven't had time to test out everything, but I'm very pleased over what I see so far!! Thanks for the support and the attempts to help out!
Youtube video acceleration isn't working as expected, but for for non video websites is OK! I removed [solved] on this thread because I found a way to share more information with you guys before I completely give up on this one.

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GL_NV_depth_buffer_float GL_NV_explicit_multisample GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_OES_EGL_image GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint
WebGL 2 Extensions: EXT_color_buffer_float EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic EXT_disjoint_timer_query OES_texture_float_linear WEBGL_compressed_texture_etc WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc_srgb WEBGL_debug_renderer_info WEBGL_debug_shaders WEBGL_lose_context
Off Main Thread Painting Enabled: true
Off Main Thread Painting Worker Count: 3
GPU #1
Active: Yes
Description: ATI Technologies Inc. -- AMD Radeon R6 Graphics
Vendor ID: ATI Technologies Inc.
Device ID: AMD Radeon R6 Graphics
Driver Version: 4.5.13397 Compatibility Profile Context 15.20.1046

Diagnostics
AzureCanvasAccelerated: 0
AzureCanvasBackend: skia
AzureContentBackend: skia
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend: none
CairoUseXRender: 0
Decision Log
HW_COMPOSITING:
blocked by default: Acceleration blocked by platform
OPENGL_COMPOSITING:
unavailable by default: Hardware compositing is disabled
WEBRENDER:
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
unavailable by runtime: Hardware compositing is disabled
WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED:
blocked by env: No qualified hardware




Media
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Audio Backend: remote
Max Channels: 2
Preferred Sample Rate: 96000
Output Devices
Name: Group
Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI): /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/sound/card0
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/sound/card1
USB Headset Analog Stereo: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.0/sound/card2
Input Devices
Name: Group
Monitor of Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI): /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/sound/card0
Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/sound/card1
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/sound/card1
Monitor of USB Headset Analog Stereo: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.0/sound/card2
USB Headset Analog Mono: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.0/sound/card2

Important Modified Preferences
------------------------------

accessibility.force_disabled: 1
browser.cache.disk.capacity: 1048576
browser.cache.disk.filesystem_reported: 1
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.enabled: false
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.first_run: false
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.use_old_max: false
browser.cache.frecency_experiment: 2
browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion: 8
browser.search.update: false
browser.search.useDBForOrder: true
browser.sessionstore.upgradeBackup.latestBuildID: 20181114214635
browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID: 20181114214635
browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone: 63.0.3
browser.tabs.remote.autostart.2: true
browser.urlbar.daysBeforeHidingSuggestionsPrompt: 0
browser.urlbar.lastSuggestionsPromptDate: 20180119
browser.urlbar.matchBuckets: general:5,suggestion:Infinity
browser.urlbar.placeholderName: DuckDuckGo
browser.urlbar.timesBeforeHidingSuggestionsHint: 0
dom.ipc.processCount: 7
dom.ipc.processCount.web: 4
dom.push.userAgentID: 27411ca47b5f4d01bca6cc311cd21113
extensions.lastAppVersion: 63.0.3
media.benchmark.vp9.fps: 89
media.benchmark.vp9.versioncheck: 5
media.eme.enabled: true
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.abi: x86_64-gcc3
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastUpdate: 1537354896
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.version: 1.7.1
media.gmp-manager.buildID: 20181114214635
media.gmp-manager.lastCheck: 1543961481
media.gmp-widevinecdm.abi: x86_64-gcc3
media.gmp-widevinecdm.lastUpdate: 1543961488
media.gmp-widevinecdm.version: 1.4.9.1088
media.gmp.storage.version.observed: 1
network.cookie.prefsMigrated: true
network.predictor.cleaned-up: true
places.database.lastMaintenance: 1543695334
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages: 112348
plugin.disable_full_page_plugin_for_types: application/pdf
print.print_bgcolor: false
print.print_bgimages: false
print.print_duplex: 0
print.print_evenpages: true
print.print_margin_bottom: 0.5
print.print_margin_left: 0.5
print.print_margin_right: 0.5
print.print_margin_top: 0.5
print.print_oddpages: true
print.print_orientation: 0
print.print_page_delay: 50
print.print_paper_data: 0
print.print_paper_height: 11.00
print.print_paper_name: na_letter
print.print_paper_size_unit: 0
print.print_paper_width: 8.50
print.print_scaling: 1.00
print.print_shrink_to_fit: true
print.print_to_file: false
print.print_unwriteable_margin_bottom: 56
print.print_unwriteable_margin_left: 25
print.print_unwriteable_margin_right: 25
print.print_unwriteable_margin_top: 25
privacy.cpd.cookies: false
privacy.cpd.downloads: false
privacy.cpd.formdata: false
privacy.cpd.history: false
privacy.cpd.sessions: false
privacy.sanitize.pending: [{"id":"newtab-container","itemsToClear":[],"options":{}}]
privacy.sanitize.timeSpan: 0
security.sandbox.content.tempDirSuffix: 7ace9e9a-df15-46e9-b160-711f909acb66
services.sync.declinedEngines:
signon.importedFromSqlite: true
storage.vacuum.last.index: 1
storage.vacuum.last.places.sqlite: 1542733105
webgl.force-enabled: true

Important Locked Preferences
----------------------------

Places Database
---------------

JavaScript
----------

Incremental GC: true

Accessibility
-------------

Activated: false
Prevent Accessibility: 1

Library Versions
----------------

NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.20
Version in use: 4.20

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.39
Version in use: 3.39

NSSSMIME
Expected minimum version: 3.39
Version in use: 3.39

NSSSSL
Expected minimum version: 3.39
Version in use: 3.39

NSSUTIL
Expected minimum version: 3.39
Version in use: 3.39

Sandbox
-------

Seccomp-BPF (System Call Filtering): true
Seccomp Thread Synchronization: false
User Namespaces for privileged processes: true
User Namespaces: false
Content Process Sandboxing: true
Media Plugin Sandboxing: true
Content Process Sandbox Level: 4
Effective Content Process Sandbox Level: 4

Rejected System Calls
---------------------

Internationalization & Localization
-----------------------------------

Application Settings
Requested Locales: ["en-US"]
Available Locales: ["en-US"]
App Locales: ["en-US"]
Regional Preferences: ["en-US"]
Default Locale: "en-US"
Operating System
System Locales: ["en-US"]
Regional Preferences: ["en-US"]
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