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Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby kedaha » 2019-07-15 06:23

Does it work for anyone? I tried Minitube and the youtube videos miniatures start to appear on the left and continually flick down without stopping. So the solution would appear to be to build it oneself or use the ready-made deb from the upstream site.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby theblueplll » 2019-07-15 16:12

kedaha wrote:Does it work for anyone? I tried Minitube and the youtube videos miniatures start to appear on the left and continually flick down without stopping. So the solution would appear to be to build it oneself or use the ready-made deb from the upstream site.


spyware
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-15 18:40

theblueplll wrote:
kedaha wrote:Does it work for anyone? I tried Minitube and the youtube videos miniatures start to appear on the left and continually flick down without stopping. So the solution would appear to be to build it oneself or use the ready-made deb from the upstream site.


spyware


Anything to back up that assertion? Debian has spyware in the repository?

Sid has a newer 3.1 release that might work if it's backported. Backporting does not mean make a FrankenDebian--some newbies seem too eager to do that.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby kedaha » 2019-07-16 15:57

stevepusser wrote:Sid has a newer 3.1 release that might work if it's backported. Backporting does not mean make a FrankenDebian--some newbies seem too eager to do that.

Thanks, steve; the newer 3.1 release currently available in sid works fine; I made a quick backport for it the same way I did a good while back in wheezy as posted in my viewtopic.php?f=20&t=104399 Yes, better in principle to use the version backported from sid rather than using a package built from the upstream source.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby theblueplll » 2019-07-16 16:04

stevepusser wrote:Anything to back up that assertion? Debian has spyware in the repository?


Yup just read the license agrement and privacy statement from the developers website.

Shouldn't surprise since KDE(data collection), and Gnome(geoloaction) is in the repo also read about those too.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-16 17:44

Let's say I'm very busy and don't have time to hunt for these statements if they don't have obvious links on the home page:

https://flavio.tordini.org/minitube

Can you provide links to the statements and where you think they say that they are spyware? If you are correct, then a bug report to that effect should be filed against the package.

Remember that Debian is providing the same Debian Google API key for every minitube package, the same as they do for Totem's Youtube feature, so you aren't giving up any data in that way.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-16 18:27

I had a couple spare minutes, so set up minitube 3.1 backports for Debian Buster and Raspian: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... a/minitube

I have some Stretch backports cooking, but they need additional backports to be done first.

Since it uses libmpv for playback, if you have GPU hardware video decoding working in mpv, the minitube videos also play back with the hardware decoding, so the CPU use doesn't go up even a whisker.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-17 21:48

Stretch backports are in this repo, which already had the ffmpeg 4 and mpv 0.29 packages that it needed to build:

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... 4/minitube
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby theblueplll » 2019-07-18 19:15

stevepusser wrote:Let's say I'm very busy and don't have time to hunt for these statements.


Really?

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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-19 02:03

It looks like a boilerplate website privacy statement to me. If you have any real evidence that minitube is doing telemetry, such as monitoring it with wireshark, file a bug against it immediately with Debian so that can be removed. But mere suspicion is not a bug.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby theblueplll » 2019-07-19 17:17

stevepusser wrote:if you have any real evidence that minitube is doing telemetry

Their statement saying that they do is pretty much real evidence..

I don't want nor ever intended to get into an argument over this.
The spyware thing was more of a passing joke but any software that collects and analyzes data and then shares it with a third party is pretty much spyware.

So I guess my point is why use this thing you might as well just use google(which does most of this anyway so why double it up).
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-21 01:10

SMTube is a similar application, but might be less suspicious to you. But it also needs to be kept updated to keep up with Youtube API changes.

https://repology.org/project/smtube/versions

Debian isn't doing very well in that regard, but I do keep it updated for MX Linux. The MX 15 packages are built on vanilla Jessie pbuilders and the MX 17 on Stretch. The MX19 ones are built on Buster.
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Postby theblueplll » 2019-07-21 03:25

stevepusser wrote:Debian isn't doing very well in that regard,


The thing is that(I think correct me if I am wrong) stuff like that comes from non free and conrtib.
So we almost can't blame Debian but then again they let it be in their repo.
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby kedaha » 2019-07-21 08:16

Yes, the license quoted from above certainly looks a bit intrusive.
It goes without saying that binary packages backported from source available in the main unstable repository have not been tested for security so, until one is quite sure, it could be run by using firejail "a SUID security sandbox program that reduces the risk of security breaches by restricting the running environment of untrusted applications."
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Re: Is Minitube already bust in Buster?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-07-23 02:48

theblueplll wrote:
stevepusser wrote:Debian isn't doing very well in that regard,


The thing is that(I think correct me if I am wrong) stuff like that comes from non free and conrtib.
So we almost can't blame Debian but then again they let it be in their repo.


Well, you're wrong, as you can see the full original source tarballs in the repos, they are in Debian's main repo, and they are released under DFSG-compliant licenses. It's just that SMTube is orphaned in Debian, apparently. The developer also maintains Debian repos for it on the OBS, however, and that was my inspiration to learn how to use the OBS myself for package building and hosting.
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