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For a glorious moment, enjoy the current Chromium on Buster

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Re: For a glorious moment, enjoy the current Chromium on Bus

#16 Post by Deb-fan »

Also gotta say thanks Steve. For a long time taken to advising people with newer hardware + Debian gnu/nix stable to install latest, at least newer firmware and kernels, little annoying to find out things are lagging behind in those very important pkgs. Not by anything massive, still enough to matter. Always tend to bypass backports personally, get critical pkgs upstream of them and on this antique laptop (latest firmware - kernels) doesn't much matter to me. Many times have started poking at particulars of what "debianized" pkgs/source even means, always end up distracted doing other dorkage.

Without the input from someone who has devoted the effort/energy to getting familiar with cool stuff like this, likely would never have known and just kept taking for granted this type of thing is being handled better than it is. Same thing behind it, this or that piece of software or feature not deemed proven enough to be brought into stable, errr even backports? Thanks for the heads up, dang good to know fellow nixer. Have hung around some of the same nix communities many yrs. You've always been a thorough, competent ... tell it like it is kinda guy. :)
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#17 Post by stevepusser »

I did port over the Ubuntu "linux-firmware" package for MX and have it replace all the various Debian ones that it would conflict with, since it has a lot of newer firmware, but it mixes up free and non-free firmware in one big deb. Not a problem if you don't freak out over that.

Got successful builds of the newer Chromium beta in Experimental after figuring out that it needed a backport of libvpx-dev from upstream, but va-api is broken on it now--the video is green and distorted. :( But it's just a beta. Video works fine if you switch off va-api in chrome://flags, though. And it takes roughly twice as long to build--maybe four hours on the i7-8750H laptop, twelve threads@3.6 GHz.
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#18 Post by Deb-fan »

^That type of thing is what I'd been guessing at, not proven or proven to be problematic for whatever reasons. Think the folks behind, really involved in the Debian gnu/nix proj are bound to really know what they're doing and why. Even highly experienced nixer's aren't going to have the same understanding, access or view of the big picture. Seen you mention some of the challenges involved in porting pkgs meant for Ubuntu, the whole choice to make their stuff binary incompatible such issues make sense. Good thing for users you're willing to devote time to trying to tackle it for them.
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#19 Post by None1975 »

Version of Chrome (version 80.0.3987.149-1~deb10u1) now in Debian Buster repos. Please check security tracker page at:
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra ... e/chromium
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#20 Post by Deb-fan »

^Probably why he said a glorious moment, the moment has passed you should've gotten here earlier. :P Now Steve's moving on to Chromium beta from Experimental branch as he outlined in the above post. Still interesting link on state of security in different branches for a pkg. A lot of red in testing but guessing that will be resolved quick enough for it not to really matter anyway.
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#21 Post by stevepusser »

Spent last night porting over LibreOffice 6.4.2.2 from Experimental--seems to be running just fine.

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Though why it records the number of build threads and the kernel version with which I built it: :?:

Maybe there's a Cr .149 upstream where they didn't disable va-api; let me take a look--oh, yeah, there it is in Sid.
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#22 Post by stevepusser »

OK, I rebuilt the current buster 80.0.0.something.149 version with va-api, and va-api works again...for another moment. This version also has the patches that let it build on straight generic Buster, no other backports needed, though Buster's clang makes it generate an extra 30 MB or warnings in the build log file. I'm uploading it to the OBS repo in the original post.
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#23 Post by bennyhillthebest »

Thank you very much Steve, with your chromium packages and enhanced h264ify my laptop load has been reduced a lot.

I've just a question/curiosity: in the Arch Wiki they suggest to use a chrome-flags.conf file, but i couldn't find the correct path to make it work (and solved by appending the arguments to the chromium.desktop exec line), does anybody know if there's a defined path in Debian for chromium-flags.conf? I was not able to find an answer online.

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#24 Post by stevepusser »

I can't answer the conf file question, but users with newer hardware may be able to avoid using h264ify if vainfo shows support for whatever codec the streamer is giving them. My 2018 laptop has decoding hardware for the vp9 codec that Youtube is pushing, but not the newer AV1 codec that they will probably start using soon.

I just checked, and Sid has a new update, too:
chromium (80.0.3987.162-1) unstable; urgency=medium

* New upstream security release.
- CVE-2020-6450: Use after free in WebAudio. Reported by Man Yue Mo
- CVE-2020-6451: Use after free in WebAudio. Reported by Man Yue Mo
- CVE-2020-6452: Heap buffer overflow in media. Reported by asnine

-- Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> Wed, 01 Apr 2020 04:30:14 +0000
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#25 Post by stevepusser »

I didn't have any new problems tweaking, building, and running the new Sid version on MX 19, so I have uploaded the sources to the OBS repository, though it will take some hours to build successfully.
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#26 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

bennyhillthebest wrote:in the Arch Wiki they suggest to use a chrome-flags.conf file, but i couldn't find the correct path to make it work (and solved by appending the arguments to the chromium.desktop exec line)
Did you try ~/.config/chromium-flags.conf? I think that applies for the Debian chromium package as well.
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#27 Post by bennyhillthebest »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Did you try ~/.config/chromium-flags.conf? I think that applies for the Debian chromium package as well.
I tried, but still on chrome://gpu i see:

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Accelerated video decode is unavailable on Linux: 137247
Disabled Features: accelerated_video_decode
So, it doesn't seem to work for me. I also tried moving the file from ~/.config/ to ~/.config/chromium/, but still no success. Thankfully, with the .desktop file exec line it works, so i'm enjoying my hw acceleration now :D

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#28 Post by stevepusser »

Out of curiosity, what GPU do you have working with va-api in Chromium now?
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#29 Post by bennyhillthebest »

I have an ASUS X54C laptop, with a i3-2350m and Intel HD 3000 graphics, and i've installed on it Debian i686 XFCE.

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#30 Post by stevepusser »

OK, thanks for the info. I see they have yet another update to the current 81.something version in Sid, so I'll see if I can backport that without va-api breaking this time.
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#31 Post by stevepusser »

Like the 81 version in Experimental, this newer version currently in testing that I backported screws up the video for me when va-api is enabled, so the moment may be coming to an end. I wonder if va-api works in testing or Sid with it, though.
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#32 Post by stevepusser »

Apparently va-api breaks for everyone with that version: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=956640 :(
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#33 Post by FOSS-15-Great »

I am a n00b trying to follow the advice in this post. Before I begin to get too deep into it:
Has the glorious moment passed already? Is HW acceleration dead as per the two most recent stevepusser posts?

Or will this still be working with Chromium below v.81?

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#34 Post by kedaha »

Just to mention that the latest chromium—courtesy of Canonical—for users who hanker after the shiniest stuff rather than the tried and tested can also be installed via snap:

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# apt install snapd
# snap install chromium
chromium 81.0.4044.129 from Canonical✓ installed
So it appears in the menu (I've tested this with the mate desktop]

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# cp /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/chromium_chromium.desktop /usr/share/applications/
However, not everyone agrees with installing stuff via snap; see for example sunrat's comments in this forum topic.
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#35 Post by stevepusser »

FOSS-15-Great wrote:I am a n00b trying to follow the advice in this post. Before I begin to get too deep into it:
Has the glorious moment passed already? Is HW acceleration dead as per the two most recent stevepusser posts?

Or will this still be working with Chromium below v.81?
The version in my OBS repo still has va-api working, and Debian hasn't pushed any newer version to Buster yet.
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