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Sigh. *Another* "Hunt the file" game with Gnome/Debian

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Jethro_UK
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Sigh. *Another* "Hunt the file" game with Gnome/Debian

#1 Post by Jethro_UK »

For various reasons I want to fiddle around with a notification popup on my system.

reading into all the guides, it seems there should be a file ...

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/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service
Where I can start my digging.

Of course, it's not there. Every other file is :

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ca.desrt.dconf.service					  org.gnome.FileRoller.ArchiveManager1.service
com.intel.dleyna-server.service				  org.gnome.FileRoller.service
org.a11y.Bus.service					  org.gnome.font-viewer.service
org.bluez.obex.service					  org.gnome.GConf.service
org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing.service		  org.gnome.gedit.service
org.freedesktop.ColorHelper.service			  org.gnome.Identity.service
org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service			  org.gnome.keyring.PrivatePrompter.service
org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore.service	  org.gnome.keyring.service
org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service			  org.gnome.keyring.SystemPrompter.service
org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop.service			  org.gnome.Logs.service
org.freedesktop.portal.Documents.service		  org.gnome.Maps.service
org.freedesktop.secrets.service				  org.gnome.NautilusPreviewer.service
org.freedesktop.systemd1.service			  org.gnome.Nautilus.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.AccountManager.service	  org.gnome.OnlineAccounts.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Logger.service		  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Facebook.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Polari.service		  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Flickr.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.idle.service  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.GData.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Logger.service		  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.MediaServer.service
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.MissionControl5.service	  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Owncloud.service
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Applications.service	  org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Zpj.service
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Extract.service		  org.gnome.Polari.service
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Files.service		  org.gnome.Rhythmbox3.service
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.service			  org.gnome.Rygel1.service
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Writeback.service		  org.gnome.Screenshot.service
org.gnome.baobab.service				  org.gnome.seahorse.Application.service
org.gnome.Calculator.SearchProvider.service		  org.gnome.seahorse.service
org.gnome.Calendar.service				  org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer.service
org.gnome.Caribou.Daemon.service			  org.gnome.Shell.HotplugSniffer.service
org.gnome.Characters.BackgroundService.service		  org.gnome.Shell.PortalHelper.service
org.gnome.Characters.service				  org.gnome.Software.service
org.gnome.Cheese.service				  org.gnome.taquin.service
org.gnome.ChromeGnomeShell.service			  org.gnome.Terminal.service
org.gnome.clocks.service				  org.gnome.Totem.service
org.gnome.Contacts.SearchProvider.service		  org.gnome.Weather.Application.service
org.gnome.Contacts.service				  org.gnome.Weather.BackgroundService.service
org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider.service		  org.gnome.zeitgeist.Engine.service
org.gnome.ControlCenter.service				  org.gnome.zeitgeist.SimpleIndexer.service
org.gnome.Dictionary.service				  org.gtk.GLib.PACRunner.service
org.gnome.DiskUtility.service				  org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor.service
org.gnome.Documents.service				  org.gtk.vfs.Daemon.service
org.gnome.evince.Daemon.service				  org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor.service
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook.service	  org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor.service
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar.service		  org.gtk.vfs.Metadata.service
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources.service		  org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.UserPrompter.service	  org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor.service
Looking in ~/.lcocal/usr/share/dbus-1 finds nothing.

So two questions ...

1) What is going on here ? Why is this file missing ?
2) On the basis that notifications are definitely working, how ?

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         `Y$$b.                  GPU: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 128 bits)
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Re: Sigh. *Another* "Hunt the file" game with Gnome/Debian

#2 Post by Bulkley »

Sometimes it helps to do

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# updatedb
and renew your search.

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Re: Sigh. *Another* "Hunt the file" game with Gnome/Debian

#3 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Jethro_UK wrote:For various reasons I want to fiddle around with a notification popup on my system.
What are your reasons and what exactly are you trying to do?

Read this to help you stop wasting our time: http://xyproblem.info/
Jethro_UK wrote:reading into all the guides, it seems there should be a file ...

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/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service
Where I can start my digging.

Of course, it's not there
Which "guides" were those then? Please provide some links.

AFAIUI /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service is a user-created file that allows for custom notification services:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De ... Standalone
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Re: Sigh. *Another* "Hunt the file" game with Gnome/Debian

#4 Post by Jethro_UK »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Jethro_UK wrote:For various reasons I want to fiddle around with a notification popup on my system.
What are your reasons and what exactly are you trying to do?

Remove a popup message with the system pops up just before it goes into suspend. Only in my case it never does, as I have disabled all power saving. But the message still pops up and stays there until you mouse over.

Read this to help you stop wasting our time: http://xyproblem.info/

Will doo
Jethro_UK wrote:reading into all the guides, it seems there should be a file ...

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/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service
Where I can start my digging.

Of course, it's not there
Which "guides" were those then? Please provide some links.

https://developer.gnome.org/notification-spec/

AFAIUI /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service is a user-created file that allows for custom notification services:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De ... Standalone
That starts to make sense.

All of which being said, I think I need to reverse my search and find the Gnome process that is putting the notification on the bus. I saw a hint in the docs that there is a "persistent" flag which I am suspecting is set inappropriately.

Thanks for the steer.

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