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GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby jaswkah » 2020-08-13 15:48

hello
i recently did some updates on my system and now the gnome desktop won't start. the booting process continues without a hitch until gnome and then the computer hangs.
i ran the boot-repair disc but this didn't solve the problem.
at boot i get as far as: [ OK ] Started GNOME Display Manager.
and then the computer hangs.
i'm at a loss where to look for the problem, especially as i haven't experienced this before.
if anyone can point me in the right direction to solving this i'd be very grateful.
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-13 17:54

jaswkah wrote:the computer hangs

Can you get to a TTY (console) screen? Either use <ctrl>+<alt>+F3 from the black screen or add 2 (or 3 or 4) as a kernel command line parameter from the bootloader to disable the display manager.

I think your machine is running but the graphical desktop won't start — that's not a "hang" at all.

And which version of Debian is this? Have you read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian?
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby jaswkah » 2020-08-15 09:40

thanks for your reply.

well, as it turns out there was no gnome to start up! gnome had been uninstalled in the last update, but i'd neglected to take notice of this. my mistake!

so, did a new install, this time using xfce. which seems to be better supported in sid (or at least i don't think it will be uninstalled anytime soon).
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby stevepusser » 2020-08-15 17:32

Hmmm...did you have much experience running Debian before you jumped right into the deep end with Sid?

Just sayin', normally an experienced user should notice what's being removed along with updates...
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-16 13:16

jaswkah wrote:so, did a new install, this time using xfce. which seems to be better supported in sid

GNOME is Debian's default desktop so it has the best support. It was removed because you don't know how to deal with the development branches.

Useful link: https://release.debian.org/transitions/
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby jaswkah » 2020-08-16 20:06

stevepusser wrote:Hmmm...did you have much experience running Debian before you jumped right into the deep end with Sid?

Just sayin', normally an experienced user should notice what's being removed along with updates...


yes, i've been using debian around 15 years now. this update slipped by, though. i think it was probably time for a new install anyways, as i'd been running this system on my machine for the last four years or so. no big deal.
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby jaswkah » 2020-08-16 20:07

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
jaswkah wrote:so, did a new install, this time using xfce. which seems to be better supported in sid

GNOME is Debian's default desktop so it has the best support. It was removed because you don't know how to deal with the development branches.

Useful link: https://release.debian.org/transitions/


thanks, i will have a look.

but actually i'm happier with xfce on my machine, which is pretty old now. things seem a bit snappier in the gui.
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby stevepusser » 2020-08-17 03:34

Nobody's going to deny that XFCE is snappier than GNOME.
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby sunrat » 2020-08-17 05:43

stevepusser wrote:Nobody's going to deny that XFCE is snappier than GNOME.

My grandpa is snappier than Gnome. :mrgreen:
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-17 18:47

stevepusser wrote:Nobody's going to deny that XFCE is snappier than GNOME.

That is true, Xfce is lighter than GNOME. Pity about the poor support for accessibility & HiDPI screens and the total dependence on the bloated, bug-ridden X server code base though :mrgreen:
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Re: GNOME NOT STARTING AFTER UPDATE

Postby oswaldkelso » 2020-08-18 17:53

I think it's playing with fire when comparing Gnome and Xserver when it come to bloat and bugs :evil:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgrepo ... t=unstable
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgrepo ... t=unstable
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