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xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia drive[fixed] [Solved]

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-30 02:03

xserver-common (2:1.10.4-1) was upgrade today in Sid to xserver-common (2:1.11.0-1) breaking my nvidia driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-280.13.run). There is a temporary fix as showen below.


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Section "ServerFlags"

   Option   "IgnoreABI" "true"

EndSection


Some problems do exist and downgrading may be a better option.

I need to look at bugreports at nividia but not sure how. LOL guess it's time to google.


EDIT: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69341&p=400173#p400173 jump to this post for the fix. If you need any help please ask.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-30 02:27

Googling found me the beta driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-285.03.run) but I don't see much change. Still buggy.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-30 02:49

Okay this is what I found on the nvidia forums http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=165665

Unfortunately, there was a change to a data structure without a corresponding change to the extension module ABI version that breaks GLX. It's not exactly clear whether this structure counts as part of the extension ABI, so I need to get to the bottom of that before a driver with official xserver 1.11 support can be released. It may be that we need to skip xserver 1.11.0 if my hunch is correct and this is a bug in the X server.


That quote is from AaronP NVIDIA Corporation. :(

So it look like downgrading is the way to go or use nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms. The problem is nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms installs a lot of stuff that is hard to remove once the nvidia drivers are fixed.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver

Postby bolong7 » 2011-08-30 04:29

wow ... there's a lot of nvidia vs xserver 1.11 thread

that's clear that nvidia doesn't support xserver 1.11 yet
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-30 04:39

Okay I down graded and pinned xserver-* then aptitude install xserver-xorg-core/2:1.10.4-1 and xserver-common/2:1.10.4-1

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Package: xserver-*
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 700


This is working fine so far with the beta drivers (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-285.03.run)
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby ramack » 2011-08-30 23:20

62chevy wrote:
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Section "ServerFlags"
   Option   "IgnoreABI" "true"
EndSection



I first added the above section to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X still didn't start.
So I executed
nvidia-xconfig
THEN added the section above, and I now have a working GUI. Thanks 62!!!

62chevy wrote:I need to look at bugreports at nividia but not sure how. LOL guess it's time to google.


I looked for bug reports related to xorg-video-abi this morning, didn't find anything. I had to leave for several hrs and was going look more when I returned. That's when I read your post. I have but updating and dist-upgrading several times since I've come home and every time there has been updates related to X and nvidia.

One thing that I had read in the past about Sid. It may break more often than Testing, but the fixes are dealt with much much quicker. Thank you Package Maintainers!

Added 20110831:
Althought I do have a GUI, it is buggy. Xfce is by WM, and mousepad will not alway open, I recieve a GTK warning.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby ramack » 2011-08-31 00:26

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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-31 00:51

ramack wrote:Bugs are here:
http://bugs.debian.org/


I could be wrong but I don't believe this is a bug with Debian or Xorg but with nvidia and they know full well about it. How fast they fix it is the question. I'm sure they knew the changes were coming too that is how I first found out about the ABI thing, Xorg.0.log, X refused to load the driver and nvidia left a message saying to use Option "IgnoreABI" "true".

If a fix takes to long I can use dkms.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby buntunub » 2011-08-31 04:44

Here is my thread on this issue.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=69256

I tried the ignoreABI option and that worked just fine but some KDE effects are wonky. Still, its livable but I like perfection so I went the apt pinning route suggested by 62chevy and I am back in KDE4.6.5 heaven again, so thanks for posting that. Me being a relative apt pinning noob I simply apt pinned as suggested, set my sources.list to wheezy and did a dist-upgrade and that seemed to work a treat.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby Barcelona_DEB » 2011-08-31 06:19

Same problem here running Sid. I tried to install 285 drivers from experimental but no luck. For the moment I uninstalled nvidia drivers and I install nouveau. I don' t play so often with 3D games, so for the moment is an acceptable solution for me. Keep an eye on aptosid forums :)

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... pic&t=1698
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby secipolla » 2011-08-31 11:35

The problem of pinning xserver's packages to testing is that it will in some days update to 1.11 too.
Better is to keep those packages on hold instead (an easy way to hold/unhold is with Synaptic).

BTW, I have a GF 6200 (yep, that old one) and GNOME 3 and KDE have been working as usual with 'ignore ABI true' (maybe I don't notice any difference as the card is quite weak anyway for today's standards).
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby ramack » 2011-08-31 12:23

Barcelona_DEB wrote:Same problem here running Sid. I tried to install 285 drivers from experimental but no luck. For the moment I uninstalled nvidia drivers and I install nouveau. I don' t play so often with 3D games, so for the moment is an acceptable solution for me. Keep an eye on aptosid forums :)

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... pic&t=1698


I saw several Aptosid threads, but I didn't find any specific to the xorg-video-abi/xserver-xorg-core dependencies I have.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby sej7278 » 2011-08-31 15:08

i'm not running sid, i'm running wheezy but today noticed that nvidia 280 is going incredibly slow - like 11fps from glxgears on a 9500gt!

any idea what that is - is it part of this bug? xserver-common=2:1.10.4-1, kernel=3.0.0-1-amd64

adding the "IgnoreABI" workaround seems to fix it, but i'd hardly call it [solved].
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby ramack » 2011-08-31 15:19

I agree.
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Re: xserver-common=2:1.11.0-1 broke nvidia driver [Solved]

Postby 62chevy » 2011-08-31 15:39

secipolla wrote:The problem of pinning xserver's packages to testing is that it will in some days update to 1.11 too.
Better is to keep those packages on hold instead (an easy way to hold/unhold is with Synaptic).

BTW, I have a GF 6200 (yep, that old one) and GNOME 3 and KDE have been working as usual with 'ignore ABI true' (maybe I don't notice any difference as the card is quite weak anyway for today's standards).



I'm fully aware of that problem but pinning can be don for a version number too. After reading the nvidia forums I get the feeling it will be some time before this is fixed and then reading the aptosid forums and nouveau is the only solution is depressing.

I marked this thread [solved] because pinning and or using the nouveau driver solved the problem. You may not like the solution as I don't but until nvidia stops treating GNU/Linux like a Red Headed Step Child it's the only solution we have.
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