Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

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Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby HankTiffany » 2017-01-24 22:38

Hello,
Well after running Debian since 2.1 I finally have hit a problem I can't seem to fix myself so I'm here to beg for help.
Last Dec 25th I decided to give myself a present by installing Debian on the laptop I use for classes, a Lenovo Thinkpad T410i, previously a Windows 7 only machine. I reduce the Windows partition (more on Windows later) and installed from a Wheezy DVD-Rom I had. Once I had connection wifi working I went to the Debian site and upgraded to Jessie. Just to make my life perfect, the HD in my old desktop crashed on the 26th. I have two unresolved problems at this time:

First, and more important, I can't seem to get the sound card working. I'm not a big fan of hearing Biff bark but I need to be able to do web-conferencing for my classes. I have spent the last month reading Man pages, How-tos and anything else I could find, no luck.( I'm not good with screen shots so I'm going to type some of the things that normally come up that way here)
From Windows I had gotten the informations on the sound card as being Conexant 20585 Smart Audio HD and also, Intel Display audio.
In lspci -v I see the following:

00:1b:.0 audio device: Intel Corporations 5 Series/3400 series high Definition Audio (rev 06)
subsystem: Leonovo Device 215e
flags: fast devsel, IRQ 11
memory at f262000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link
Kernel driver in use: oss_hdaudio

I've also got that the device id is 8086:3b56

I've loaded the Firmware packages and the microcode packages, tried both oss and alsa, dev/dsp and dev/mixer both exist, I've tried with both a 3.16 and a 4.8 kernel, ran alsactl init, tried loading some modules manually, and I honestly forget what all else.
I keep getting various error messages, most recently the message has been: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
In the boot-time messages (journalctl) the only reference to the card I have found is the following 4 lines:

00:1b.0 [8086:3b56] type 00 class 0x040300
00:1b.0 reg 0x10 [mem 0xf262000-0xf263fff 64 bit]
00:1b.0 PME# supported from D0 D3hot, D3cold
00:1b.0 System wakeup disabled by ACPI

a little farther down I see:

oss_hdaudio: HDA codex 0x140f15069 not known yet [repeats but with address 0x80862804] [both lines in RED, then repeated]

and then:

oss4-base[297]: Starting Open Sound System modprobe FATAL:module oss_usb not found
oss4-base[297]: open module oss_usb failed - ignored ... (warning).
oss4-base[297]: opendir: No such file or directory
oss4-base[297]: done


and then:
alsactl[685]: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:[1729]: No soundcards found...

systemd[1] meanwhile is reporting that it started Restore Sound Card State.

And that is where I am at.
Oh, I can't tell you what Windows 7 says, it won't boot any more, that's my other problem. I've tried both grub and lilo and under both it gets the Windows logo up ant then sits there glowing. I've tried a couple of rescue options with no luck. It seems, as best I can tell, to think I've changed the hardware (I haven't) and goes off to sulk. that's windows for you.
Oh and I have only very limited BIOS access. I bought the machine used, store now out of business, and the BIOS is passwd protected (!) and I wasn't given the password.
thank you for your time and any help you can give,
DH "Hank" Tiffany
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Re: Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby Segfault » 2017-01-24 22:50

No wonder ALSA tools can't find the device, you are using OSS low level drivers. I find it most unusual, was this your choice?
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Re: Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby bw123 » 2017-01-24 23:03

the BIOS is passwd protected (!) and I wasn't given the password.


flash it from a floppy

can't tell you what Windows 7 says, it won't boot any more


Don't worry about it, doesn't matter waht it says if you are troubleshooting the linux install.

First, and more important, I can't seem to get the sound card working


Sounds like you have apt-get fever and installed a bunch of stuff trying to fix a simple config issue, this is normal behavior for people used to windows. Take your time answer questions posted in this thread and I bet some of the people on here will have you in business pretty quick.

oh yeah, leran to use code tags, and welcome to the forum.
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Re: Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby bw123 » 2017-01-24 23:52

did a search for you, i dunno man it looks like sound should work but if the wiki is wrong please update it? thanks.

https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebia ... nkpad/T410
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Re: Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby Segfault » 2017-01-25 00:03

If you do not mind, look at the initial post again. OP is using OSS4, not ALSA. Thinkpad T410 works fine with ALSA, I have a T410 myself, everything works.
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Re: Sound in Jessie on Thinkpad T410i

Postby HankTiffany » 2017-01-25 04:16

Thanks to all who have replied so far. I haven't messed with sound in a long time.
I had just alsa and got nowhere, read somewhere that alsa could use oss drivers and that they got along fine so I tried installing oss4. I will take it off when next I have time to play with this (probably Thursday) and report back. That's what I get for trusting things I read on the web, I guess.
In general I try to deal with one system/crisis at a time!
Oh, and I had seen that page on Debian on a T410 before, but thanks for trying. It sure didn't have audio "right out of the box" for me I'm afraid.

As to windows, wouldn't care about it but some software I have to use for classes is poorly written (It only runs on windows) so if I don't have something running windows, I have to go to campus (about an hour each way) and use one of their machines. So it would be nice, I guess, to get it back.

Evening all,
hank
ps What's a floppy? Now that the discs are dead for most, I mean.
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