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[SOLVED]Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#16 Post by trailtron »

Segfault wrote:Well, sounds like the newer kernel can't handle your Intel graphics for some odd reason. My NUC, the Kodi box, is years old, it had most of time updated kernels and they all worked. I roll my own kernels, so it has always been customized for this hardware.
If this is a kernel issue,is there some way to fix it?

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#17 Post by Segfault »

Despite turning black it may actually boot - and produce a helpful dmesg. So have a look at it. Pay attention to lines containing drm and/or vga.

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#18 Post by stevepusser »

This Linux Mint thread seems to show that changing the settings for UEFI vs Legacy Boot cured the black screen problem, but there's two contradictory answers. The nonfree intel-microcode package could be worth adding, too. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=215965
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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#19 Post by Segfault »

Yup, there is EFI framebuffer, if it cannot handle the [possibly buggy] UEFI firmware you get black screen, booting in CSM mode will work around it.

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#20 Post by trailtron »

stevepusser wrote:This Linux Mint thread seems to show that changing the settings for UEFI vs Legacy Boot cured the black screen problem, but there's two contradictory answers. The nonfree intel-microcode package could be worth adding, too. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=215965
Hmmm...The guy with my exact problem seems to have fixed it in UEFI by just installing the latest Linux Mint.Or maybe my reading comprehension might be bad :P(Sorry,not I am an ESLer)

Is there some special package thats included with latest mint so as to work with latest UEFI drivers?

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#21 Post by trailtron »

Segfault wrote:Yup, there is EFI framebuffer, if it cannot handle the [possibly buggy] UEFI firmware you get black screen, booting in CSM mode will work around it.

Will there be a fix for this issuein the future?Is there some possible package I have to install to fix this?

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#22 Post by Segfault »

It is simple in Linux, you look at logs and you fix it. EFI framebuffer driver is part of kernel. We do not know what is wrong with your setup, you haven't told us. Lots of guessing has be done, I really don't know what else to tell you. Use Ubuntu because your hardware is certified by Ubuntu?

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#23 Post by trailtron »

Segfault wrote:It is simple in Linux, you look at logs and you fix it. EFI framebuffer driver is part of kernel. We do not know what is wrong with your setup, you haven't told us. Lots of guessing has be done, I really don't know what else to tell you. Use Ubuntu because your hardware is certified by Ubuntu?
Sorry.Dmesg output was too long to post here.I hope file upload links are accepted here.

https://ufile.io/6ef711

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#24 Post by trailtron »

Segfault wrote:Well, sounds like the newer kernel can't handle your Intel graphics for some odd reason. My NUC, the Kodi box, is years old, it had most of time updated kernels and they all worked. I roll my own kernels, so it has always been customized for this hardware.

Some how I got my device to boot by enabling nomodeset in kernel parameters,but my graphics is still corrupted according to inxi -G output

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Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.1 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@76.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.5


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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#25 Post by Dai_trying »

have you installed the "xserver-xorg-video-intel" package from backports?

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#26 Post by trailtron »

Dai_trying wrote:have you installed the "xserver-xorg-video-intel" package from backports?
Yes.I use the testinng distro now.

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#27 Post by Dai_trying »

I gotta say I'm a little baffled by this... would it be possible to post the full output of inxi -F it might be helpful to know system details.

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#28 Post by trailtron »

Dai_trying wrote:I gotta say I'm a little baffled by this... would it be possible to post the full output of inxi -F it might be helpful to know system details.

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System:    Host: gnudev Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: MATE 1.16.1  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-3552 v: 4.0.9
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T14MC v: A00
           UEFI: Dell v: 4.0.9 date: 06/02/2016
Battery    BAT0: charge: 25.1 Wh 92.0% condition: 27.3/28.0 Wh (98%)
CPU:       Quad core Intel Pentium N3700 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 754 MHz 2: 1417 MHz 3: 819 MHz
           4: 574 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.1 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@76.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.5
Audio:     Card Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-2-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 94:53:30:8a:27:af
           Card-2: Atheros
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (7.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABF0 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 454G used: 32G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.20GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: 31.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A fan-1: 0
Info:      Processes: 154 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 575.8/3867.6MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5 


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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#29 Post by Dai_trying »

The only thing I can see of noticeable difference is the bios (UEFI) firmware looks to be old, you could update that to 4.0.13 it might help... Other than that I can see no reason for it not to be working like my system.

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#30 Post by trailtron »

Dai_trying wrote:The only thing I can see of noticeable difference is the bios (UEFI) firmware looks to be old, you could update that to 4.0.13 it might help... Other than that I can see no reason for it not to be working like my system.
I did and it still have'nt fixed the problem.
May be I should stick to legacy?

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System:    Host: gnudev Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: MATE 1.16.1  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-3552 v: 4.0.13
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T14MC v: A00
           UEFI: Dell v: 4.0.13 date: 12/22/2016
Battery    BAT0: charge: 11.1 Wh 40.4% condition: 27.3/28.0 Wh (98%)
CPU:       Quad core Intel Pentium N3700 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 1430 MHz 2: 1280 MHz 3: 865 MHz
           4: 517 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.1 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@76.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.5
Audio:     Card Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-2-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: da:47:d4:75:e1:a5
           Card-2: Atheros
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 515.5GB (7.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABF0 size: 500.1GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Ultra size: 15.4GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 454G used: 32G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.20GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0C mobo: 50.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A fan-1: 0
Info:      Processes: 162 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 462.7/3867.6MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5 

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#31 Post by Dai_trying »

trailtron wrote:I did and it still have'nt fixed the problem.
May be I should stick to legacy?

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System:    Host: gnudev Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: MATE 1.16.1  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-3552 v: 4.0.13
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T14MC v: A00
           UEFI: Dell v: 4.0.13 date: 12/22/2016
Maybe legacy could work for you...

EDIT sorry was looking at another post, remark removed. :oops:

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#32 Post by MikeEcho »

Dai_trying wrote:
trailtron wrote:I did and it still have'nt fixed the problem.
May be I should stick to legacy?

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System:    Host: gnudev Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: MATE 1.16.1  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-3552 v: 4.0.13
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T14MC v: A00
           UEFI: Dell v: 4.0.13 date: 12/22/2016
Maybe legacy could work for you...

EDIT sorry was looking at another post, remark removed. :oops:
I have the same computer (Inspiron 3552 Linux Edition) and I have the exact same issue. Stretch boots (after LVM password screen) on a blank screen (to be very descriptive screen backlight turns on two or three times and just goes away for ever) even in legacy mode (with a straight debian BIOS install) ... Nevertheless, I can boot with nomodeset but that's not a solution (no backlight control, some graphic issues, etc.)

Have anyone find any solutions to these problems ?

Do you have an EFI-installed stretch on your system ? Can the lack of EFI explain this kind of issues ?


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#34 Post by Dai_trying »

My system is UEFI booted and running smoothly so far, my system was not a Linux ready model (Linux was not offered as a purchase option) but I have been successfully running 3 OS's and have tested a few others (with varying degrees of success for different distro's).
If this is a legacy boot problem that could explain why I have not experienced it as I don't use legacy options...

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Re: Poor graphics/performance in Dell Inspirion 15 3552

#35 Post by trailtron »

MikeEcho wrote:
Dai_trying wrote:
trailtron wrote:I did and it still have'nt fixed the problem.
May be I should stick to legacy?

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System:    Host: gnudev Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: MATE 1.16.1  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-3552 v: 4.0.13
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T14MC v: A00
           UEFI: Dell v: 4.0.13 date: 12/22/2016
Maybe legacy could work for you...

EDIT sorry was looking at another post, remark removed. :oops:
I have the same computer (Inspiron 3552 Linux Edition) and I have the exact same issue. Stretch boots (after LVM password screen) on a blank screen (to be very descriptive screen backlight turns on two or three times and just goes away for ever) even in legacy mode (with a straight debian BIOS install) ... Nevertheless, I can boot with nomodeset but that's not a solution (no backlight control, some graphic issues, etc.)

Have anyone find any solutions to these problems ?

Do you have an EFI-installed stretch on your system ? Can the lack of EFI explain this kind of issues ?
Is a fix for this available?
LLVMPipe is really slow.It can't even play snes games without lagging.

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