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4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graphics?

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#16 Post by akrueger »

sunrat wrote:You may not need to wait so long. 4.11 is in experimental repo now so you can try it at your own risk. Nothing to lose, I guess. I imagine it will move to unstable shortly after next week's Stretch release.
Kernel upstream are now working on 4.13.
Fantastic, thanks

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#17 Post by akrueger »

The newest I could find was '4.10.0-rc6-amd64'

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sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list
sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-cache search linux-image -t experimental

sudo apt-get -t experimental install linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 
sudo reboot

sudo aptitude search ~S~i~Aexperimental
i   linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64                                       - Linux 4.10-rc6 for 64-bit PCs (signed) 
but (a) same max video resolution, and (b) then virtualbox stopped working.

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sudo /sbin/vboxconfig
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64'

tail /var/log/vbox-install.log
Makefile:186: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.  Stop.
I was really happy to be able to go back to 4.9.0.3 - but now I have to choose that manually when booting.

Can I just do an

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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 
?

Thx

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#18 Post by stevepusser »

You don't have the linux-headers package for the newer kernel installed. VB needs those to build its kernel drivers, as do proprietary video drivers. An easy way to install headers for the running kernel is to install module-assistant and run

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m-a prepare
as root or with sudo.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#19 Post by sunrat »

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#20 Post by stevepusser »

I know the newest Virtual Box has no problems building against the 4.11 headers, so that's one thing you don't need to worry about.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#21 Post by akrueger »

Thanks A LOT!

Might have to postpone until after holidays, and then it might have changed again. Do not know how to access sid repo yet, but probably similar to experimental repo, right?


Until then, to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an

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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 
without danger ?

I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#22 Post by GarryRicketson »

by akrueger »Do not know how to access sid repo yet, but probably similar to experimental repo, right?

how to access sid repo
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https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
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https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable# ... o.27.27.3F
How do I install Sid?

The canonical answer is: Debian does not release unstable. You can only upgrade to it from testing. You do that by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing your sources from testing to unstable. (If you've currently got an installation of stable, then you should upgrade to testing first and then to unstable.)
The same would apply to your packages, the sources.list file would point t "unstable"
It might not be such a good idea to do this though,..you should read all of the documentation, to be sure if that is really what you want to do.

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#23 Post by akrueger »

thx

to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an

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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 
without danger ?

I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.

Thx

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#24 Post by GarryRicketson »

I am not sure on that, I was hoping somebody else might be able to give a answer,
so did not reply immediately.

Sorry,...
I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
Maybe you need to configure the boot manager ,to use the 4.9 one first, is it Grub ?
I do not know exactly on that, and it would depend on the boot manager.

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#25 Post by milomak »

yes you can just remove the kernel with apt
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#26 Post by GarryRicketson »

Thanks milomak,
I was worried about this, and concerned that the OP or somebody else, might remove it, and then not be able to boot, glad you have clarified on this.

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#27 Post by akrueger »

Thanks a lot, it went well:

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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
After this operation, 189 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 281665 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 (4.10~rc6-1~exp2) ...
I: /vmlinuz is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
I: /initrd.img is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda1@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
done
and rebooting still worked. No danger, very good.


Still don't know how to do 4K - but at least that always-having-to-choose-the-old-kernel, so that VirtualBox still works ... is gone again.

Any ideas when a 4K supporting kernel will become part of the standard Debian system?

Thanks.

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#28 Post by pylkko »

Did you install the blob that Skylake + require

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#29 Post by sunrat »

pylkko wrote:Did you install the blob that Skylake + require
If you mean intel-microcode, OP installed it.

You won't get a newer kernel in Stretch unless someone backports it and puts it in backports repo. 4.11 is now in testing.
May be worth trying siduction which has firmware included and 4.11.11 kernel (probably 4.12 now, I haven't updated this week) currently if you dist-upgrade after installing. It is based on Sid though and has massive amounts of upgrades almost every day. I'm running it and it works well. You can try it live before installing. https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?board=22.0

It may not even be the kernel that is your problem. Until someone else reports they have a working Kaby Lake system with 4k, we can only guess.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#30 Post by pylkko »

no. I mean the extra non-free video firmware. the blobs required for GuC and DMC etc. i forget the package's name.
don't know if this can make you not see 4k though...

edit: found it

https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-misc-nonfree
* Intel "Kabylake" DMC firmware, version 1.01
(i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin, i915/kbl_dmc_ver1.bin)
* Intel "Kabylake" GuC firmware, version 9.14
(i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin)
According to Intel you also need huc for kbl, but I believe that it is for hevc

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#31 Post by akrueger »

No idea about sid. I am running stretch, and I am happy.

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sudo apt-get install firmware-misc-nonfree intel-microcode
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
firmware-misc-nonfree is already the newest version (20161130-3).
intel-microcode is already the newest version (3.20170707.1~deb9u1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
sunrat wrote: You won't get a newer kernel in Stretch unless someone backports it and puts it in backports repo.
Good to know, thanks. Difficult?

Does that ever happen?

Would a bounty help with making that more probable?
sunrat wrote: It is based on Sid though and has massive amounts of upgrades almost every day.
I refer stable over cutting edge, if I can avoid that.
sunrat wrote:It may not even be the kernel that is your problem. Until someone else reports they have a working Kaby Lake system with 4k, we can only guess.
True.
What else could I try?

So far I have resisted the tempation to make a thousand steps backwards, and switch back to Windows - but to not at all use this massive, and beautiful screen, what a waste.

Please please please, Debianwizards, help me.

Thanks.

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#32 Post by stevepusser »

You could try adding the Liquorix kernel and headers, which is currently Stretch-compatible and incorporates kernel 4.12.8:

https://liquorix.net/

Don't remove the standard 4.9 kernel unless you really need the disk space--it's prudent to keep it as a backup.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#33 Post by akrueger »

stevepusser wrote:You could try adding the Liquorix kernel and headers, which is currently Stretch-compatible and incorporates kernel 4.12.8:
https://liquorix.net/
Thank you VERY much. That seems to work. And ... virtualbox is also still working, this time.

I have kernel 4.12 now!

I am writing this on the new kernel:

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uname -a
Linux Dell13-5378 4.12.0-8.3-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.12-3 (2017-08-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
BUT ... no high resolution.

I have gone through all hints in this thread once more.

My hardware & config:

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 inxi -GSM
System:    Host: Dell13-5378 Kernel: 4.12.0-8.3-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7
           Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 13-5378
           Mobo: Dell model: 0P87CH v: A00 UEFI: Dell v: 1.6.1 date: 02/13/2017
Battery    BAT0: charge: 36.8 Wh 126.7% condition: 29.1/36.8 Wh (79%)
Graphics:  Card: Intel Device 5916
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.05hz, 2048x1152@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6


This is the highest I can go:
xrandr
HDMI-1 connected 2048x1152+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 621mm x 341mm
2048x1152 60.00*
I found these instructions somewhere:

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cvt 3840 2160 30.00
xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 3840x2160_30
But:

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xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 3840x2160_30
xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
Which software must I install apart from this?

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sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel firmware-misc-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version (2:2.99.917+git20161206-1).
firmware-misc-nonfree is already the newest version (20161130-3).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
What would you do now, if you had such a beautiful 4K screen, but cannot use it - go back to Windows?

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#34 Post by akrueger »

I am looking at the tiniest text I have ever looked at ;-)

Hooray

I got it working, hoooooooray.

Like this:
https://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes/#o ... powerstrip
download PowerStrip (but not from entech because their server disconnects again and again and again ... but from some mirror, find by google)

Then windows, install PowerStrip, reboot(!), follow those instructions ... and end up with something like this, in your clipboard

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PowerStrip timing parameters:
3840x2400=3840,8,104,144,2400,1,2,21,148931,1

Generic timing details for 3840x2400:
HFP=8 HSW=104 HBP=144 kHz=36 VFP=1 VSW=2 VBP=21 Hz=15

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=148931.00 H.Active=3840 H.Blank=256 H.Offset=-8 HSW=104 V.Active=2400 V.Blank=24 V.Offset=1 VSW=2

Linux modeline parameters:
"3840x2400" 148.931 3840 3848 3952 4096 2400 2401 2403 2424 +hsync +vsync
Then reboot into linux, and:
xrandr --newmode "3840x2400" 148.931 3840 3848 3952 4096 2400 2401 2403 2424 +hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "3840x2400"
xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode "3840x2400"
And ooooops, suddenly I have 9.2 million pixels in front of me, a whopping 4.44 K screen. Wow.

The display OSD says:

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3840 x 2400 @ 15 Hz
H.Frequency: 36 KHz
V.Frequency: 15 HZ
Model Number: GB2888UHSU
so ... now back into Windows, and extracting more such settings. 15 Hz is a bit low - and 4.44 K resolution ... is a bit much ;-)



Wow, I guess this was the most painful and lengthy hardware problem I have had in 30+ years. Again, I have learned a lot, but still:
Why do I have to extract those settings via that strange Windows tool? Why does the IIYAMA screen not report by itself which resolutions it can do?

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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph

#35 Post by akrueger »

akrueger wrote: so ... now back into Windows, and extracting more such settings.
extracted the defaults:
PowerStrip timing parameters:
3840x2160=3840,176,88,296,2160,8,10,72,112707,518

Generic timing details for 3840x2160:
HFP=176 HSW=88 HBP=296 kHz=26 VFP=8 VSW=10 VBP=72 Hz=11

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=112.71 H.Active=3840 H.Blank=560 H.Offset=160 HSW=88 V.Active=2160 V.Blank=90 V.Offset=8 VSW=10

Linux modeline parameters:
"3840x2160" 112.707 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 -hsync -vsync
so

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xrandr --newmode "3840x2160" 112.707 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 -hsync -vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "3840x2160"
xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode "3840x2160" 
is resulting in (Display OSD ... stupidly short 3 seconds then it disappears):
3840 x 2160 @ 11Hz
H.Frequency: 25 KHz
V.Frequency: 11 Hz
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