Fantastic, thankssunrat wrote:You may not need to wait so long. 4.11 is in experimental repo now so you can try it at your own risk. Nothing to lose, I guess. I imagine it will move to unstable shortly after next week's Stretch release.
Kernel upstream are now working on 4.13.
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4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graphics?
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
The newest I could find was '4.10.0-rc6-amd64'
but (a) same max video resolution, and (b) then virtualbox stopped working.
I was really happy to be able to go back to 4.9.0.3 - but now I have to choose that manually when booting.
Can I just do an
?
Thx
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sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-cache search linux-image -t experimental
sudo apt-get -t experimental install linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
sudo reboot
sudo aptitude search ~S~i~Aexperimental
i linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 - Linux 4.10-rc6 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
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sudo /sbin/vboxconfig
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-4.10.0-rc6-amd64'
tail /var/log/vbox-install.log
Makefile:186: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop.
Can I just do an
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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
Thx
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
You don't have the linux-headers package for the newer kernel installed. VB needs those to build its kernel drivers, as do proprietary video drivers. An easy way to install headers for the running kernel is to install module-assistant and run
as root or with sudo.
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m-a prepare
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
4.11 has moved to sid:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-i ... .0-1-amd64
Headers there too:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-h ... .0-1-amd64
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-i ... .0-1-amd64
Headers there too:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-h ... .0-1-amd64
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
I know the newest Virtual Box has no problems building against the 4.11 headers, so that's one thing you don't need to worry about.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Thanks A LOT!
Might have to postpone until after holidays, and then it might have changed again. Do not know how to access sid repo yet, but probably similar to experimental repo, right?
Until then, to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an
without danger ?
I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
Thx
Might have to postpone until after holidays, and then it might have changed again. Do not know how to access sid repo yet, but probably similar to experimental repo, right?
Until then, to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an
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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
by akrueger »Do not know how to access sid repo yet, but probably similar to experimental repo, right?
how to access sid repo
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https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
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https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable# ... o.27.27.3F
The same would apply to your packages, the sources.list file would point t "unstable"How do I install Sid?
The canonical answer is: Debian does not release unstable. You can only upgrade to it from testing. You do that by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing your sources from testing to unstable. (If you've currently got an installation of stable, then you should upgrade to testing first and then to unstable.)
It might not be such a good idea to do this though,..you should read all of the documentation, to be sure if that is really what you want to do.
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
thx
to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an
without danger ?
I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
Thx
to get rid of the default booting of the wrong kernel, can I just do an
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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
Thx
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
I am not sure on that, I was hoping somebody else might be able to give a answer,
so did not reply immediately.
Sorry,...
I do not know exactly on that, and it would depend on the boot manager.
so did not reply immediately.
Sorry,...
Maybe you need to configure the boot manager ,to use the 4.9 one first, is it Grub ?I now always have to manually select the 4.9 in the boot manager.
I do not know exactly on that, and it would depend on the boot manager.
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
yes you can just remove the kernel with apt
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Thanks milomak,
I was worried about this, and concerned that the OP or somebody else, might remove it, and then not be able to boot, glad you have clarified on this.
I was worried about this, and concerned that the OP or somebody else, might remove it, and then not be able to boot, glad you have clarified on this.
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Thanks a lot, it went well:
and rebooting still worked. No danger, very good.
Still don't know how to do 4K - but at least that always-having-to-choose-the-old-kernel, so that VirtualBox still works ... is gone again.
Any ideas when a 4K supporting kernel will become part of the standard Debian system?
Thanks.
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sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
After this operation, 189 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 281665 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-4.10.0-rc6-amd64 (4.10~rc6-1~exp2) ...
I: /vmlinuz is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
I: /initrd.img is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-4.10.0-rc6-amd64
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda1@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
done
Still don't know how to do 4K - but at least that always-having-to-choose-the-old-kernel, so that VirtualBox still works ... is gone again.
Any ideas when a 4K supporting kernel will become part of the standard Debian system?
Thanks.
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Did you install the blob that Skylake + require
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
If you mean intel-microcode, OP installed it.pylkko wrote:Did you install the blob that Skylake + require
You won't get a newer kernel in Stretch unless someone backports it and puts it in backports repo. 4.11 is now in testing.
May be worth trying siduction which has firmware included and 4.11.11 kernel (probably 4.12 now, I haven't updated this week) currently if you dist-upgrade after installing. It is based on Sid though and has massive amounts of upgrades almost every day. I'm running it and it works well. You can try it live before installing. https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?board=22.0
It may not even be the kernel that is your problem. Until someone else reports they have a working Kaby Lake system with 4k, we can only guess.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
no. I mean the extra non-free video firmware. the blobs required for GuC and DMC etc. i forget the package's name.
don't know if this can make you not see 4k though...
edit: found it
https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-misc-nonfree
don't know if this can make you not see 4k though...
edit: found it
https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-misc-nonfree
According to Intel you also need huc for kbl, but I believe that it is for hevc* Intel "Kabylake" DMC firmware, version 1.01
(i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin, i915/kbl_dmc_ver1.bin)
* Intel "Kabylake" GuC firmware, version 9.14
(i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin)
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
No idea about sid. I am running stretch, and I am happy.pylkko wrote: https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-misc-nonfree
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sudo apt-get install firmware-misc-nonfree intel-microcode
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
firmware-misc-nonfree is already the newest version (20161130-3).
intel-microcode is already the newest version (3.20170707.1~deb9u1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Good to know, thanks. Difficult?sunrat wrote: You won't get a newer kernel in Stretch unless someone backports it and puts it in backports repo.
Does that ever happen?
Would a bounty help with making that more probable?
I refer stable over cutting edge, if I can avoid that.sunrat wrote: It is based on Sid though and has massive amounts of upgrades almost every day.
True.sunrat wrote:It may not even be the kernel that is your problem. Until someone else reports they have a working Kaby Lake system with 4k, we can only guess.
What else could I try?
So far I have resisted the tempation to make a thousand steps backwards, and switch back to Windows - but to not at all use this massive, and beautiful screen, what a waste.
Please please please, Debianwizards, help me.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
You could try adding the Liquorix kernel and headers, which is currently Stretch-compatible and incorporates kernel 4.12.8:
https://liquorix.net/
Don't remove the standard 4.9 kernel unless you really need the disk space--it's prudent to keep it as a backup.
https://liquorix.net/
Don't remove the standard 4.9 kernel unless you really need the disk space--it's prudent to keep it as a backup.
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Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
Thank you VERY much. That seems to work. And ... virtualbox is also still working, this time.stevepusser wrote:You could try adding the Liquorix kernel and headers, which is currently Stretch-compatible and incorporates kernel 4.12.8:
https://liquorix.net/
I have kernel 4.12 now!
I am writing this on the new kernel:
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uname -a
Linux Dell13-5378 4.12.0-8.3-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.12-3 (2017-08-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
I have gone through all hints in this thread once more.
My hardware & config:
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inxi -GSM
System: Host: Dell13-5378 Kernel: 4.12.0-8.3-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine: Device: laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 13-5378
Mobo: Dell model: 0P87CH v: A00 UEFI: Dell v: 1.6.1 date: 02/13/2017
Battery BAT0: charge: 36.8 Wh 126.7% condition: 29.1/36.8 Wh (79%)
Graphics: Card: Intel Device 5916
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.05hz, 2048x1152@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6
I found these instructions somewhere:xrandr
HDMI-1 connected 2048x1152+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 621mm x 341mm
2048x1152 60.00*
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cvt 3840 2160 30.00
xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30" 338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 3840x2160_30
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xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 3840x2160_30
xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
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sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel firmware-misc-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version (2:2.99.917+git20161206-1).
firmware-misc-nonfree is already the newest version (20161130-3).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
I am looking at the tiniest text I have ever looked at
Hooray
I got it working, hoooooooray.
Like this:
https://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes/#o ... powerstrip
download PowerStrip (but not from entech because their server disconnects again and again and again ... but from some mirror, find by google)
Then windows, install PowerStrip, reboot(!), follow those instructions ... and end up with something like this, in your clipboard
Then reboot into linux, and:
The display OSD says:
so ... now back into Windows, and extracting more such settings. 15 Hz is a bit low - and 4.44 K resolution ... is a bit much
Wow, I guess this was the most painful and lengthy hardware problem I have had in 30+ years. Again, I have learned a lot, but still:
Why do I have to extract those settings via that strange Windows tool? Why does the IIYAMA screen not report by itself which resolutions it can do?
Hooray
I got it working, hoooooooray.
Like this:
https://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes/#o ... powerstrip
download PowerStrip (but not from entech because their server disconnects again and again and again ... but from some mirror, find by google)
Then windows, install PowerStrip, reboot(!), follow those instructions ... and end up with something like this, in your clipboard
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PowerStrip timing parameters:
3840x2400=3840,8,104,144,2400,1,2,21,148931,1
Generic timing details for 3840x2400:
HFP=8 HSW=104 HBP=144 kHz=36 VFP=1 VSW=2 VBP=21 Hz=15
VESA detailed timing:
PClk=148931.00 H.Active=3840 H.Blank=256 H.Offset=-8 HSW=104 V.Active=2400 V.Blank=24 V.Offset=1 VSW=2
Linux modeline parameters:
"3840x2400" 148.931 3840 3848 3952 4096 2400 2401 2403 2424 +hsync +vsync
And ooooops, suddenly I have 9.2 million pixels in front of me, a whopping 4.44 K screen. Wow.xrandr --newmode "3840x2400" 148.931 3840 3848 3952 4096 2400 2401 2403 2424 +hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "3840x2400"
xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode "3840x2400"
The display OSD says:
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3840 x 2400 @ 15 Hz
H.Frequency: 36 KHz
V.Frequency: 15 HZ
Model Number: GB2888UHSU
Wow, I guess this was the most painful and lengthy hardware problem I have had in 30+ years. Again, I have learned a lot, but still:
Why do I have to extract those settings via that strange Windows tool? Why does the IIYAMA screen not report by itself which resolutions it can do?
Re: 4K resolution in Debian stretch (testing) on INTEL graph
extracted the defaults:akrueger wrote: so ... now back into Windows, and extracting more such settings.
soPowerStrip timing parameters:
3840x2160=3840,176,88,296,2160,8,10,72,112707,518
Generic timing details for 3840x2160:
HFP=176 HSW=88 HBP=296 kHz=26 VFP=8 VSW=10 VBP=72 Hz=11
VESA detailed timing:
PClk=112.71 H.Active=3840 H.Blank=560 H.Offset=160 HSW=88 V.Active=2160 V.Blank=90 V.Offset=8 VSW=10
Linux modeline parameters:
"3840x2160" 112.707 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 -hsync -vsync
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xrandr --newmode "3840x2160" 112.707 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 -hsync -vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "3840x2160"
xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode "3840x2160"
3840 x 2160 @ 11Hz
H.Frequency: 25 KHz
V.Frequency: 11 Hz
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