Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 KDE and nvidia driver

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2017-06-25 08:51

Pick only the new sysvinit kernel (now with kernel matched nvidia installed) to boot; instead of the GRUB auto default 9.0 (systemd) that can't start nvidia yet.


Now you make me wonder if Devuan could run it without all those nifty hacks :lol:

Good job.
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 KDE and nvidia driver

Postby kdo » 2017-06-26 15:21

neodeb wrote:You're welcome. Add that nomodeset into your boot line (end) at GRUB and at least boot emergency mode without black screen.
Added link above.

Addendum: See solution posted below

Another computer of mine with CLEAN installed Deb 9.0.1 stable (from live amd64 mate) also failed to load nvidia just the same. However re-installation of Noveau (no-way) worked there (without good acceleration though).

Meanwhile my main system is Deb 9 STABLE with no Noveau (WETF) and Nvidia. Just emergency mode text and that starts with no net and read only. Yea.

Hi everyone
Thanks
As i told before non of these commands are effective
Nomodset and acpi
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 KDE and nvidia driver

Postby kdo » 2017-06-26 15:27

neodeb wrote:op: I'm not running KDE so perhaps the op'er would remove KDE from the op. However If preferred I will start another thread. I just thought all these tips I learned were worth sharing for those with Deb 9 and nvidia not working. Serious 9.0 failures indeed.

THE PROCESS ...mostly done. How I got there (see solution post below)...

Debian 9.0 stretch/stable, [b]dist-upgraded (not recommended yet), 4.9 kernel (sysv!!! fallback), Nvidia legacy 304 full 3D support installed the debian way that should auto-up with new kernels. Booting into GUI and user as normal. Using Slim display manager (only because others failed restarting those display managers from my root tests). service <display_manager> restart DANG! It's like running sid. I read a failure to login as user (check that if stuck at root console) is a kernel bug, placing a /run/nologin file. When removed rm /run/nologin will login to user again. So I decided to edit the alternative kernel in GRUB for 4.9, sysv and manually add single to the end of that line (then hit F10) to boot that combo as SYSV+RECOVERY and not the "emergency mode". Now I purged and installed nvidia the debian way and with no errors it (for the first time) could immediately start X. service slim restart
If I now choose the alternative 4.9, sysv GRUB selection nvidia just works. I sign in to slim and [b]finally have my normal (now Deb 9 mate amd64) desktop!


Are we trying to many new things at once?

Note: Oh yeah! I purposely broke my recommended rule of NOT installing anything (even stable) until it's been out for a month or three(on your main system). I said I'll fix it if there's a problem. GEESH! Better days.

Not at all it's the same problem (almost)let it be helpful for other people

New update:
I tried legacy mode
Remove and reinstall xserver and it's components manually
All of the desktops have the same problem for me

I will wait for next update or backports i guess its kernal problem
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 KDE and nvidia driver

Postby neodeb » 2017-06-26 22:22

op: Maybe if you removed KDE from your orig post title then my workaround solution would be better considered by all users. Not just KDE. Unless you're sure you're having a KDE specific issue, of course.

Yes, I think it is a kernel problem when running systemd and not sysvinit. nvidia works with sysvinit (for me). I tried systemd (nividia install) again today and it's still borked (text only).

op: I would be interested which errors you generally got; when you did the nvidia reinstall over the sysvinit with single (and nomodeset if black screen only). Did you try my prep and commands?

Trying later or with some other version is viable option as well. This is why everyone need to know... Just because something goes form beta (testing) to stable does NOT mean it's perfectly cooked. What is this, like day 5 for Deb 9.0. A fix will come soon. Just by upgrading.

I guess someone should ferret out why the fall-back (nouveau) is unreliable. It doesn't do fast 3D direct graphic well; but it would be nice to work as a fall-back with GUI. I'm TIRED!
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

Postby neodeb » 2017-06-28 05:39

The next day new kernels are out. It all works. ;)

If your nvidia still doesn't work then see my revised commands at the bottom of the first page. Hopefully something there will help.
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

Postby kdo » 2017-06-28 17:52

neodeb wrote:The next day new kernels are out. It all works. ;)

If your nvidia still doesn't work then see my revised commands at the bottom of the first page. Hopefully something there will help.

Hi again and thanks a lot i mean A Lot
Specially for heads up

After installing the new updates+nvidia driver i get these:
Image

I seriously need a very stable distro for now(i have calculation that will take days i dont want to have any crashes during this time)

Do u have anything in mind? Or should i wait again for next update?(9.1)

As the first post photo i got:
ACPI error:AE not found
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

Postby kdo » 2017-06-29 13:22

This is a kernel problem and its still there :
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1413342
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

Postby kdo » 2017-07-01 15:56

Ok finally i managed to install everything using:

Debian9+Gnome+bumblebee+nvidia driver+Complete cuda package(900MB)

But i only was able to log in using wayland not x and it was stupidly slow and synaptic and libre office had problem with wayland

If i choose x it will stock on login screen and only way to restart is hard reset
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Re: Serious new problem with debian 9 and nvidia driver

Postby neodeb » 2017-07-04 16:47

I just found your post. I'm not sure where you should go next; but great job getting this far! Never give up.

If you require even better stability you could punt back to Debian 8.8 (via live and installer for KDE if you want) for a month or so. Especially if you have stable work to do.

A lot of good and respected work has been done to test Deb 9 into it's "stable" rendition; but is brand new and just now hitting the masses.

When Deb stable is just a few days old then it is stable on the devs computers. The masses bugs then make it better for all the many multiples (exponentially) of hardware combinations and personal UI preferences. Therefore for mission critical applications it's best to wait a month or two and that takes self-control.

Plus, things are getting more complex and numerous, not less.

Plus, a major dist release means core/foundational improvements (never stuck in the past) and these also require more vetting.

All that said: You'll never find better than Debian. If you build it.

If there are any brand new GNU/Linux users seeing this then start with Linux Mint Mate (EASY) for about a year. Then install Debian (hard the FIRST time) and make it the exact way you want it.
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