Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-06 09:14

bw123 wrote:what about as root
# alsactl init
then as regular user
$ alsamixer
unmute everything, exit and then run
$ speaker-test -t wav


# alsactl init
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Found hardware: "NFORCE" "Realtek ALC655 rev 0" "AC97a:414c4760" "0x1695" "0x100d"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method


default sound card unmute all:
$ alsamixer
Image

$ speaker-test -t wav
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speaker-test 1.1.3

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
WAV file(s)
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 192 to 2097152
Period size range from 64 to 699051
Using max buffer size 2097152
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 524288
was set buffer_size = 2097152
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494354
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490811
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491235
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490793
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491156
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491520
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491197
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493699
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490921
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491650
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491056
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492240
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492180
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492021
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491030
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,498311
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495623
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492420
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492378
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491012
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491477
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490955
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491313
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491704
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491118
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490671
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491455
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491057
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491704
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491247
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491484
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491286
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492013
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491896
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491411
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491422
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491039
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491964
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494308
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,523958
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495712
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491490
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490997
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491069
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491012
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495118
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495427
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490846
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491369
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490942
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491493
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492136
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494659
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497269
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,499769
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491421
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491055
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,508032
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491075
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491021
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496098
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491447
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491073
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491051
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491262
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491434
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,498048
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495909
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493615
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491330
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493653
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497476
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495572
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496208
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491064
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492037
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,505489
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494330
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494817
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490783
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491681
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,499607
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491172
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493840
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,832358
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491023
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491247
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494864
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490984
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490945
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491099
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,502361
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,507251
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491481
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491496
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491752
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492034
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490891
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494433
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490791
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492701
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495030
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494889
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490513
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491528
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490819
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491963
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491630
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490973
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,492124
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494040
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491153
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490671
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493473
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497536
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494644
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,835677
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491597
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490832
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493178
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493999
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495204
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494519
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497267
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,500142
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491317
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490922
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491088
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496231
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491665
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491033
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491246
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,832781
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491219
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491381
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493836
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496391
 0 - Front Left
...


aftef changed sound card and unmute all:

$ alsamixer
Image
Image

$ speaker-test -t wav

Code: Select all
speaker-test 1.1.3

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
WAV file(s)
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 192 to 2097152
Period size range from 64 to 699051
Using max buffer size 2097152
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 524288
was set buffer_size = 2097152
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497898
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491239
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491067
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490850
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491322
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490915
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491702
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491320
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491078
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491469
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491065
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491049
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490774
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491502
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491137
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491017
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491383
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490961
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491277
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,497682
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496291
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495314
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496472
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,502501
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501923
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,499786
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496061
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496079
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,507825
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501137
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495621
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491923
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495065
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493886
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494833
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,502665
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,503800
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496654
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,507883
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496726
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496684
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494654
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493615
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495066
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491390
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490836
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501935
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,503782
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494914
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,511204
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491214
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491398
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,498356
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495456
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491382
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491330
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493614
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501777
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496649
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496478
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,500528
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494523
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491547
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490808
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491951
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496560
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501246
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491265
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,500942
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490696
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,499137
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,498149
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491032
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491560
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,498995
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491064
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494719
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496140
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491225
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491239
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491476
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,495746
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491085
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494209
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490814
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,507028
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490910
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,501562
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,503110
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491300
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494114
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493635
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496175
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,496201
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,490709
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491504
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,834165
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,491400
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,493818
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494674
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,836623
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,508478
 0 - Front Left
Time per period = 1,494310
 0 - Front Left
...
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-06 09:32

debiman wrote:
AlBel wrote:
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00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: NVIDIA Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
   Subsystem: EPoX Computer Co., Ltd. nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller
   Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
   Kernel modules: snd_intel8x0

AlBel, i put CODE tags aroujnd your cosde, i think it's more readable that way, please also do it that way in future.

however, since the kernel module loaded & is being used, i maintain you simply have a problem setting up alsa mixer channels, so please do and provide the output the previous poster requested.

additionally:
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aplay -L


# aplay -L
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default
    Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
sysdefault:CARD=CK8S
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Front speakers
surround21:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S - IEC958
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=CK8S,DEV=2
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S - IEC958
    Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=CK8S,DEV=2
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S - IEC958
    Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=CK8S,DEV=2
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S - IEC958
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=CK8S,DEV=0
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S
    Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=CK8S,DEV=2
    NVidia CK8S, NVidia CK8S - IEC958
    Hardware device with all software conversions
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby bw123 » 2018-05-06 11:40

One reason this is tough might be that you keep changing hardware details and installation details. It went from realtec chip on xfce and pulseaudio, to another device on lxde using alsa.

You need to stick to one set of facts to get a good solution.

Let people know whether you want to use pulseaudio or not for sure, because that has a different method of unmuting the channels. For that I have seen rcommend pavucontrol.

You don't have to keep posting pages and pages of output, most people on here have seen it many times.
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby sunrat » 2018-05-06 11:57

pavucontrol is a good recommendation - Pulse Audio Volume Control in the menu. I have seen instances where sound shows playing in pavucontrol but audio is still muted in alsamixer so both need to be checked. Also it can set the default card as HDMI audio from the graphics card and that needs to be reset to the correct one, but I don't think this old hardware would have HDMI.
The hardware should be ok as lspci shows the correct driver loaded. speaker-test shows it is outputting audio, did you still not hear sound?
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby debiman » 2018-05-06 14:10

you do have pulseaudio, so you have to check pulseaudio settings.


AlBel wrote:aftef changed sound card and unmute all:

$ alsamixer

right. so what did you change? show us.
do you have sound now?
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-06 17:46

sorry i shall not create big posts.
debiman, i clicked F6 in alsamixer and selected on NVidia. not sounds :cry:
bw123, i reinstall system by advice this man. Can xfce be better? I hoped lxde or nonfree would be a sound.
sunrat, pavucontrol(playback), pavucontrol(output_devices)
I have standard drivers from CD for Windows XP and the sound is playing fine in XP.
When I open this window select Nvidia or Beеp, and reopen then the data disappears. So it should be?
Maybe I should install an older version of debian:?:
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby debiman » 2018-05-06 18:34

my russian is not so good, and i don't use pulsaudio, but i can't help but notice that on these 2 images there's a speaker with a red cross, which means something is muted:
http://dt.iki.fi/stuff/forums/M9Gu5y9.png
http://dt.iki.fi/stuff/forums/psn1jxX.png
tried clicking that? what happens then?
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-06 18:48

debiman, i tried to click - nothing happens, only the strip changes color on grey. In windows(xp,vista,seven) red cross means that no driver is installed for example.
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby debiman » 2018-05-06 18:50

AlBel wrote:debiman, i tried to click - nothing happens, only the strip changes color on grey.

ah, i see. i think i misinterpreted the meaning of this.
like i said, i have no clue what is written there, and i don't use pulseaudio myself.
well, it was worth a try.
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-06 18:54

:lol:
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby sunrat » 2018-05-06 23:31

Those buttons should not show muted. That needs to be resolved. Some more ideas:
1. Run this command in a terminal -
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pactl set-sink-mute 0 0


If that doesn't work:
2. I got one idea from https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?titl ... CE_Desktop) :
Adapted a bit - create a hidden file in your $HOME called .asoundrc (it says to do it in /etc but ~/.asoundrc does the same thing but for user only and overrides the global one)
Copy and paste this exactly and reboot:
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pcm.pulse {
   type pulse
}
ctl.pulse {
   type pulse
}
pcm.!default {
   type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
   type pulse
}


If that fails, remove that file and use the sledgehammer approach - remove pulseaudio completely.
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-07 10:15

sunrat, did as you wrote - not sounds Image
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby sunrat » 2018-05-07 12:30

I'm out of ideas. Sure I had sound with my old nForce2 system but that was before Pulseaudio even existed.

Actually one last idea. Try this instead of the above code in ~/.asoundrc
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pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm hw
}
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby AlBel » 2018-05-08 13:11

sunrat , tried how did you advise - not sound Image
tried manually and automatically reinstalled the driver - the video is good even in the Internet browser, but there is no sound.
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Re: Realtec AC'97 Audio & NVIDIA nForce3 250 on XFCE

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2018-05-09 13:06

Set up backports, and try installing kernel from backports.
https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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