AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby stevepusser » 2019-01-11 19:06

You're using MX 18 now? If so, just open up Synaptic and search for "kernel realtime", though you should also be asking those questions on the MX forums and not here. We have the 4.19 realtime kernel available, though you can also install the Liquorix kernel easily in the MX Package Installer under "Kernels" and have them all available as boot options.

Don't randomly install some 4.16 rt kernel deb from $(DEITY) knows where.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby zimbodel » 2019-01-12 23:56

Question to Stevepusser,

Which forum do you suggest for MX18 related questions ?
The only one I could find is on LinuxQuestions.org.
Is that the main forum ?
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby zimbodel » 2019-01-12 23:59

Yes I do.
See my post as I did not see yours.
It already solved all my bluetooth problems I had unexpectedly as well as jittery sound with Debian Stretch.
Really great distro !

stevepusser wrote:You're using MX 18 now? m $(DEITY) knows where.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-12 19:35

Hello ,

i have also this card RX560 and just upgraded to Debian Stretch.


What is the best way to install drivers for this card on Debian 9?


Should i install Amdgpu like shown here

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install- ... etch-linux

Should i download and install official AMD Driver

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics ... eon-rx-560

or is there another way that is more preferable?



Thanks
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby Wheelerof4te » 2019-07-12 19:45

mrkapqa wrote:i have also this card RX560 and just upgraded to Debian Stretch.

Cool, now you can upgrade to Buster, it just went Stable :mrgreen:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ ... ading.html

Also, this question has been asked and answered a million times, so here's a million-oneth time:
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apt install firmware-amd-graphics

after enabling non-free repo.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-26 12:03

Thanks ,

i just installed Debian Buster,


and it stalls with no Desktop (GNome) and fails completely with (KDE).


Quite an experience. It seems since Wheezy Debian has gone a long way in complicating the user experience.


I wonder why the installer is not picking up the correct driver for the RX560 or what is the problem here?
I have 2 monitors connected.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-26 12:09

Wheelerof4te wrote:
mrkapqa wrote:i have also this card RX560 and just upgraded to Debian Stretch.

Cool, now you can upgrade to Buster, it just went Stable :mrgreen:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ ... ading.html

Also, this question has been asked and answered a million times, so here's a million-oneth time:
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apt install firmware-amd-graphics

after enabling non-free repo.




i would then boot into "recovery"

and try to enable contrib and non-free in the sources.list but it would not do

the apt-get update afterwards complaining of deb.debian.org not found etc.


The firmware-amd-graphics is not found in Main repository.

Total fail.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-26 12:12

from recovery mode:

apt-get update


Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'
Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'


never trust a buster.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby L_V » 2019-07-26 12:37

Is your network active ?
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ping -c5 1.1.1.1

+ to see
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grep ^d /etc/apt/sources.list
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-07-27 10:37

mrkapqa wrote:Total fail.

Yes, you're not doing well, are you? :mrgreen:

Boot with the systemd.unit=multi-user.target kernel command line parameter to disable the graphical desktop, use ifupdown or nmcli to connect then add the non-free component to your sources, update the package database and install the non-free firmware required by your graphics card.

Debian is intended for competent GNU/Linux users so if you find this all a bit challenging then you could try something like MX Linux instead until you get the hang of things.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-27 11:08

Hei!

Thanks for the heads-up!

Obviously the internet was working fine as i was able to install DEbian Buster thanks to the NetInstaller.

For some unknown reason, the DVD Iso images has failed on my computer, and i tested this several times. Maybe it does not recognize the DVD-RW or there is some bug in the installer.


So, as Debian seems "dependent" on Internet, i am wondering, why the "recovery" mode does shut me off from it?

Yes, that was an epic fail, poor me.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-27 11:13

I am sorry not be able to investigate this issue atm as i resorted to Ubuntu LTS.

No issue at all with RX560 out of the box.


I am using Debian since Squeeze/Wheezy and am really a novice user with a fair understanding of computer , but i seem do not fail to notice when quality control is deteriorating.

Sorry for the rant, that were too many errors at the same time (no graphics on gnome AND KDE, no internet at recovery etc.) - so it is fair to blame it on my poor understanding of Debian.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-27 11:22

Poor is, what poorly does, and i cannot blame Ubuntu for perfectly functioning here.

I would never have thought to state this, but i would no longer recommend Debian over Ubuntu, and i tested also quite a lot.

Most of my Linux machines still run Debian Wheezy, but with Jessie onwards things just went out of my reach.


So all of you, thanks for the development of Debian , but i hope someone can hear this up the echelon and do something about it.
A "new" operating system i think should be able to correctly interpret a graphics card from 2017-2018, otherwise , there is no point in selecting a Desktop Environment at all, and it is my understanding, that GNOME is still the most favored of the Debian Project.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-07-27 11:25

mrkapqa wrote:i hope someone can hear this up the echelon

Nope, no developers visit here.

mrkapqa wrote:A "new" operating system i think should be able to correctly interpret a graphics card from 2017-2018

I'm using Debian buster with a Vega 8 graphics card (same generation as your RX560) and it works very well indeed, better than in Win10 in fact.

Debian cannot include the non-free firmware that your device requires because it violates their Social Contract. Now **** off to Ubuntu and stop bothering us with your ignorant nonsense.
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Re: AMD RX560 on Debian Stretch - Not supported?

Postby mrkapqa » 2019-07-27 11:30

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
mrkapqa wrote:
Debian cannot include the non-free firmware that your device requires because it violates their Social Contract. Now **** off to Ubuntu and stop bothering us with your ignorant nonsense.


Hei,
i was not asking for the non-free firmware, but to boot into working Gnome3 Desktop Environment, which obviously i was not able to.
As a resort, i remember the post from our friend here, advised a little more up to install the firmware as the prefered way to get good graphics driver.
So i am wondering, what sort of recovery should i resort to, if the recovery mode does automatically cut me "off the cloud" ..
someone should get some developers involved and ask them this.
...and off i am.
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