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Debian Buster compatibility

Postby NewToLinux » 2020-04-27 16:26

Hi.

Can anyone please answer the following questions ?

(1) Will Debian Buster work okay with Intel 9th generation CPUs ?

(2) Will Debian Buster work okay with AMD Ryzen 3 CPUs ?

(3) Will Debian Buster work okay with AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs ?

Thanks.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-04-27 16:46

NewToLinux wrote:Will Debian Buster work okay with Intel 9th generation CPUs ?

Maybe. Not sure though.

NewToLinux wrote:(2) Will Debian Buster work okay with AMD Ryzen 3 CPUs ?

(3) Will Debian Buster work okay with AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs ?

Of which generation? 1st and 2nd generation should be fine (I'm posting this from a 2nd generation Ryzen 5 machine) but 3rd generation might be problematic.

Debian buster's package versions were frozen back in January 2019[1] so support for anything introduced after that date might be patchy or even non-existent.

Note that support can be improved by installing a newer kernel version from the buster-backports repository, which also has newer firmware packages available (2019-07-17 being the most recent), see my [FAQ] guide in the HowTo section for instructions. I made an ISO image that has the newer kernel and even newer firmware installed by default, see my signature for the link.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby NewToLinux » 2020-05-10 09:36

Thanks very much for the reply. I do not know the inner workings of Debian, so I wish to stick with using the stable release of Debian Buster.

Will AMD Ryzen 5 2500X and AMD Ryzen 5 2600E work okay with the stable release without any real problems ?
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-05-10 09:43

I think so, yes. My laptop has a 2500U and I've had it running with all 8 threads pinned at 100% for several hours at a time with no freezes or other problems. Be sure to install the amd64-microcode package though.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby NewToLinux » 2020-05-21 09:58

I have discovered that the two CPUs I mentioned are no longer available.

Hence I have now decided to install a third generation Ryzen CPU.

I intend to install the latest stable release of Buster I.e. Debian 10.4 to give a 4.19 kernel and then install the latest
kernel from Buster back port I.e. a 5.5 or 5.6 kernel.

I could then see whether the 4.19 or back port kernel worked best with the third generation CPU.
I understand I can determine which kernel to boot from Advance Options in the Grub boot loader.

Would the above process work okay ?

I need to decide which CPU and motherboard to use.

I am considering the Ryzen 3 3300X or the Ryzen 5 3600 with the MSI B450-A PRO or MSI B450 TOMAHAWK

The desktop will be used for office work not for gaming.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-05-21 14:41

The desktop 4000 series (Zen 3) are due out soon and if the laptop processors are anything to go by they will offer a significant improvement over the third generation chips. Debian stable almost certainly won't support it until the next release though.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/am ... therboards
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby NewToLinux » 2020-05-21 14:56

I don't believe Bullseye (Debian 11) has a release date yet. I can't wait for that, so I will try what I have suggested.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-05-21 14:59

NewToLinux wrote:I don't believe Bullseye (Debian 11) has a release date yet.

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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Bulkley » 2020-05-21 15:02

Head_on_a_Stick has given you his expert opinion. Let me give you my amateur suggestion. Download a Live install image and burn it to a USB stick.
A "live install" image contains a Debian system that can boot without modifying any files on the hard drive and also allows installation of Debian from the contents of the image.


A live-version will let you try to your heart's content without commitment.
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby NewToLinux » 2020-05-28 09:29

I have just seen this article :-

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... tros&num=1

This shows Debian 10 (I.e. Buster) working okay with Ryzen 9 3900X CPU.

I am puzzled as I thought there were problems using Buster with a third generation Ryzen CPU.

Has anyone any ideas about this article ?
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Re: Debian Buster compatibility

Postby Dai_trying » 2020-05-28 10:07

Surely your linked article sheds light on this
Now that BIOS updates over the past month have resolved the early boot issue with Ryzen 3000 processors and thus the new AMD CPUs playing nicely with modern Linux distributions,
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