Nope, sorry.tomazzi wrote:Dasein, (aka "The One" - from german)
(Sorry for the hijack. Done here.)
To be honest, over 10 years ago I've discovered that linux-based systems are just a heaven for programmers - and because Your experiences are so different, I would like to hear where is Your problem... (but it was already solved in this topic... - hmm...)johnyjj2 wrote:To be honest, I have impression that the most basic things in any Linux distribution are much more complicated than with Windows
This time I'm fully agree with You - the vi/vim are a horrible programs, which for unknown reasons are treated as a "holy graals" of all of unix/linux distributions - in fact those editors are old, and extremely inconvenient - just a shadows of the past... - use the nano editorjohnyjj2 wrote:For example I could never understand why vim or vi require pressing i to start typing and escape, colon, w, q, enter to save (...)
This time You're stupid - without reading the EULA You're sentencing Yourself to install a crappy software which will make a harm to Your system sooner or later - definitely it's not just clicking "next, next" - unless You're willng (or just don't give a crap about) to give Your private data to a 3rd-party companiesjohnyjj2 wrote:Or another example, in Windows if I want to install software, I double click exe, press next, next, next, finish and that's it.
Actually it is in reverse, to start with, it is almost impossible to find the command prompt on windows, then when I type in a simple command like:johnyjj2 wrote: I have impression that the most basic things in any Linux distribution are much more complicated than with Windows
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cd /etc/apt
That's an example of what you need to change in your thinking. In Debian, just install the mono-devel package from the repository. Done.Or another example, in Windows if I want to install software, I double click exe, press next, next, next, finish and that's it. Even in case of complex software like Visual Studio. If I need to change something, I can do it later, but things work out-of-the-box. With Linux it's often more difficult to install software. Or if I have error, in Win I see some message box with red icon. In Linux terminal I have very lengthy output where any error or failure is not even marked with red font.
I admit I've been using Debian and Ubuntu for roughly a year on servers and a few months on desktop, but I've always hated vi and vim. Especially, since it's the default on centos 6.stevepusser wrote:GNU/Linux is not a free and open source version of Windows; it was never meant to be that. Maybe giving this a read would clear things up.
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In the Linux world, however, this is not so much the case: Projects frequently start out as one man's toy. He does everything himself, and therefore the interface has no need of any kind of "user friendly" features: The user knows everything there is to know about the software, he doesn't need help. Vi is a good example of software deliberately created for a user who already knows how it works: It's not unheard of for new users to reboot their computers because they couldn't figure out how else to get out of vi.
johnyjj2 wrote:And then solution (in case someone in the future needs it).
Or workaround if you prefer to call it that way. I have just added Debian Wheezy repositories to sources.list...
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