davidgurvich wrote:How much space do you have? You might download the DVD image, then either burn that or use that as the installation media from the hard drive. I would suggest using jigdo to get the iso.
From the debian installation howto:
A.2.5. Booting from hard disk
It's possible to boot the installer using no removable media, but just an existing hard disk, which can have a different OS on it. Download hd-media/initrd.gz, hd-media/vmlinuz, and a Debian CD image to the top-level directory of the hard disk. Make sure that the CD image has a filename ending in .iso. Now it's just a matter of booting linux with the initrd. Section 5.1.2, “Booting from Linux Using LILO or GRUB” explains one way to do it.
dont really know what you are getting at
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and i have reason to believe that the problem is specifcally with the jre I was using. As you saw above the plugins listed GCJ. I read that those dont work 100 percent of the time and on some pages (such as the log-on page at school) Is one of those pages that it just wont work with.
then last night I tried this
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anthony@Bongzilla:~/Desktop$ cd /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$ ls libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt libunixprintplugin.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.4-blackdown/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$ ls
libjavaplugin_oji.so libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt libunixprintplugin.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$ cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.4-blackdown/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ ls
libjavaplugin_oji.so libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
There is only 1 program which provides java
(/usr/lib/j2re1.4-blackdown/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins$
then my plugins listed in the about:plugins are
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Blackdown Java-Linux Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-java-vm Java Yes
application/x-java-applet Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_01 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_02 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_03 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_04 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_05 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_06 Java Yes
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_07 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_01 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_02 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_03 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_04 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_05 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_06 Java Yes
application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4.2_07 Java Yes
Shockwave Flash
File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes
Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.20.3
File name: libtotem-basic-plugin.so
The Totem 2.20.3 plugin handles video and audio streams.
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/ogg Ogg multimedia ogg Yes
audio/ogg Ogg Audio ogg Yes
audio/x-ogg Ogg Audio ogg Yes
video/ogg Ogg Video ogg Yes
video/x-ogg Ogg Video ogg Yes
video/mpeg MPEG video mpg, mpeg, mpe Yes
audio/wav WAV audio wav Yes
audio/x-wav WAV audio wav Yes
audio/mpeg MP3 audio mp3 Yes
application/x-nsv-vp3-mp3 NSV video nsv Yes
video/flv Flash video flv Yes
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible (compatible; Totem)
File name: libtotem-complex-plugin.so
The Totem 2.20.3 plugin handles video and audio streams.
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealAudio document rpm Yes
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
File name: libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
The Totem 2.20.3 plugin handles video and audio streams.
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-mplayer2 AVI video avi, wma, wmv Yes
video/x-ms-asf-plugin ASF video asf, wmv Yes
video/x-msvideo AVI video asf, wmv Yes
video/x-ms-asf ASF video asf Yes
video/x-ms-wmv WMV video wmv Yes
video/x-wmv WMV video wmv Yes
video/x-ms-wvx Playlist wmv Yes
video/x-ms-wm ASF video wmv Yes
application/x-ms-wms WMV video wms Yes
application/asx Playlist asx Yes
DivX® Web Player
File name: libtotem-mully-plugin.so
The Totem 2.20.3 plugin handles video and audio streams.
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
video/divx AVI video divx Yes
QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0
File name: libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
The Totem 2.20.3 plugin handles video and audio streams.
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
video/quicktime QT video mov Yes
video/mp4 MPEG-4 video mp4 Yes
image/x-macpaint MacPaint Bitmap image pntg Yes
image/x-quicktime Macintosh Quickdraw/PICT drawing pict, pict1, pict2 Yes
video/x-m4v MPEG-4 video
So now the plug ins list java and still dont work. My friend got this working
in 32 bit ubuntu my installing restricted stuff from the repository. It just flat out worked. This gives me reason to believe that I should be able to resolve this.
after that failure I also tried this --
created a deb of the java bin the same way i made the blackhawk one
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sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.6_1.6.0+update3_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package sun-j2re1.6.
(Reading database ... 103604 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking sun-j2re1.6 (from sun-j2re1.6_1.6.0+update3_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up sun-j2re1.6 (1.6.0+update3) ...
anthony@Bongzilla:~/Desktop$ cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ ls -n /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 234068 2007-09-25 01:34 /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ ls
libjavaplugin_oji.so libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-gmp-plugin.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
anthony@Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ su
Password:
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls -n /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 234068 2007-09-25 01:34 /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls
libjavaplugin_oji.so libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-gmp-plugin.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# cd /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins# ls
libjavaplugin_oji.so libtotem-mully-plugin.so
libtotem-basic-plugin.so libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
libtotem-complex-plugin.so libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt libunixprintplugin.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins# ls -n /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 234068 2007-09-25 01:34 /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins# java -version
java version "1.6.0_03"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
Bongzilla:/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins# update-alternatives --config java
There are 2 alternatives which provide `java'
I did this at 4 in the morning so I see that now it could have been a permission issue as to why that wouldnt link.
BUT i have read that
"Also worth noting, the Sun Java 1.5.0 for AMD64 doesn't have the Java web browser plugin currently available, so for browsers that access Java through that plugin, one cannot currently view Java applets with the Sun Java 1.5.0 for AMD64.suggest using the Blackdown Java 1.4.2 for AMD64 if you want to have Java support in such browsers."
I dont know if this is 100% correct.
IF the newest version of the jre that is released from SUN will work for 64 bit with the ability to view java applets I think that this will work. The problem is that the instructions are misleading as the directory structure of the folder contents is not at all like the on for the 32 bit version.
mine was located here
/usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/lib/amd64/libjava.so and thats not even oji.so like the 32 bit version and the one in the blackdown directory for amd644.
my other option is chroot i suppose but i was having a hard time understanding some of the how-tos. I had a sid chroot set up and running but could not figure out how to run iceweasel through it. After I chrooted the chroot directory and executed firefox command, the root firefox appeared and not on fron the 32 bit install. I would also like to avoid running the full chroot if possible because it did end up to be about 400 MB of space and that seems like a lot just to get the internet working.
I will do this if i must but i want to have an easy time installing the 32 bit plugins.
please let me know what you guys think, I am getting closer every day.
-Anthony