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KDE 4.2 Beta 1 in experimental - when?

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daris
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KDE 4.2 Beta 1 in experimental - when?

#1 Post by daris »

When will the KDE 4.2 Beta 1 in experimental repo?

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#2 Post by Jackiebrown »

I use the Debian svn and build my packages once a week (sometimes more, sometimes less.)

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/

Beta 1 is there.

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#3 Post by jtodd »

Jackiebrown wrote:I use the Debian svn and build my packages once a week (sometimes more, sometimes less.)

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/

Beta 1 is there.
You build kde once a week?

That must be fun. :roll:
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#4 Post by BioTube »

He must have a dualcore.
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#5 Post by Lux »

daris wrote:When will the KDE 4.2 Beta 1 in experimental repo?
There exists a FAQ about this topic.
BioTube wrote:He must have a dualcore.
A couple of months ago I bought a new computer and I chose a dual-core processor because I occasionally use a source-based distro called Source Mage for fun, although I mainly spend time on my Debian system. My new computer has also 4 GB of RAM. With this kind of hardware setup, building stuff from source can be relatively fast, especially if you use ccache and do the compiling on tmpfs (in RAM, that is). Actually, using tmpfs doesn't seem to make that much difference in compile times, but ccache can save a lot of time when you install a newer version of a program that you've already installed before.

In Debian I rarely need to compile anything. :)
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#6 Post by Jackiebrown »

jtodd wrote:
Jackiebrown wrote:I use the Debian svn and build my packages once a week (sometimes more, sometimes less.)

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/

Beta 1 is there.
You build kde once a week?

That must be fun. :roll:
It's easy.

copy the debian fold into to kde folder

run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -S (takes about a 20 seconds)

Then I move it to my source folder and run apt-get --build source kde

Not too hard.

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#7 Post by daris »

Lux wrote:
daris wrote:When will the KDE 4.2 Beta 1 in experimental repo?
There exists a FAQ about this topic.
I installed ubuntu intrepid and kde beta 1 but I thought kde is more stable ;) (it crashed at least once a minute). I'll wait for a stable version ;)

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#8 Post by cassianoleal »

It's easy.

copy the debian fold into to kde folder

run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -S (takes about a 20 seconds)

Then I move it to my source folder and run apt-get --build source kde

Not too hard.
Hey, man...

Would you mind ellaborating on that a bit? I am willing to do it and make the packages available for those who are interested in trying out KDE 4.2 in Debian.

Thanks!

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#9 Post by Jackiebrown »

Start with the debian svn

svn checkout svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/branches/kde4.2/

Go to kdelibs folder and look at the changelog. It will tell you the kde svn
revision number.

The download the module from kde

svn checkout --revision 889987
svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/

Move the debian directory to the kde one.

run
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -S

just do that for whatever modules you want, then

apt-get build-dep module_name
apt-get --build source moudule_name

I have my own repos set but I only get about 40 - 60 KB/s upload speeds so it didn't seem worth sharing. (I use it on my home network for my wife and my computer)

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Thanks

#10 Post by cassianoleal »

Thanks for the reply!

I'm getting this error, though...

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# apt-get build-dep kdelibs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Build-dependencies for kdelibs could not be satisfied.
and if I try to build it,

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# apt-get --build source kdelibs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Need to get 19.0MB of source archives.
Get: 1 http://ftp.br.debian.org sid/main kdelibs 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1 (dsc) [2253B]
Get: 2 http://ftp.br.debian.org sid/main kdelibs 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1 (tar) [18.6MB]
0% [2 kdelibs 187320/18.6MB 1%]^C
It's downloading kdelibs' sources from sid, where they are 3.5.10's...

I'll probably just try to 'fakeroot debian/rules binary', but I'm not sure that it's the best way...

Thanks for the help!

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#11 Post by Jackiebrown »

It's kdelibs5.

Also, just comment out the source repos while doing this.

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new problem...

#12 Post by cassianoleal »

things are coming along. i could build these packages already:

- kdelibs
- akonadi
- kdepimlibs
- phonon
- kdebase

kdebase has built kdebase-runtime along, but not kdebase-workspace.

while trying to build kdeartwork, kdebase-workspace came up as a requirement, so i went to build it before. i copied the kdebase-workspace/debian dir into kdebase/workspace (hoping that was right), generated the sources and:

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$ sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase-workspace
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Build-Depends dependency for kdebase-workspace cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package python-kde4 can satisfy version requirements
i found python-kde.install inside kdebindings' debian/ folder, but kdebase-workspace is actually a build dependency of bindings...:

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$ sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase-workspace
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Build-Depends dependency for kdebase-workspace cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package python-kde4 can satisfy version requirements
$ sudo apt-get build-dep kdebindings
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Build-Depends dependency for kdebindings cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package kdebase-workspace-dev can satisfy version requirements
do I have to get python-kde4 from somewhere else?

thanks for all your help!

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#13 Post by matt1606 »

Today there were several commits in the debian svn repository so the python-kde4 dependency was removed from kdebase-workspace (this was a circular build dependency). I've accomplished to build from trunk:

akonadi
phonon
kdelibs
kdebase
kdegraphics
kdepimlibs
kdepim
kdebindings
kdenetwork
kdeutils

Thats all I need and it works well (there were some crashes, but hey - it's beta software!)
There are tags for KDE 4.2 beta2 in trunk now (KDE-4.1.85)

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can't build kdelibs

#14 Post by cassianoleal »

I have just checked out the scripts from debian's svn and was trying to build the packages.

akonadi and phonon went fine, but kdelibs fails with this message:

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dh_installcatalogs -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_installpam -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_installlogrotate -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_installlogcheck -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_installchangelogs -pkdelibs5-dev   
dh_installudev -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_lintian -pkdelibs5-dev 
dh_install -pkdelibs5-dev --sourcedir=debian/tmp 
cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/BasicFindPackageVersion.cmake.in': No such file or directory
dh_install: command returned error code 256
make: *** [binary-install/kdelibs5-dev] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
Build command ‘cd kde4libs-4.1.85+svn897388 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc’ failed.
E: Child process failed
Any clues?

Thanks!

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#15 Post by mensch »

I've been trying to follow Jackiebrown's instructions as well, but I'm stuck at the source package generation. Running "apt-get build-dep kdelibs5" after "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -S" just gives me this output:

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for kde4libs
Am I missing something here?
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#16 Post by ana »

Folks,

Do not bother in building yourselves, we will be providing unsupported snapshots packages in the next few days.

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it's kde4libs

#17 Post by cassianoleal »

try kde4libs instead of kdelibs5.

cheers!

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#18 Post by Jackiebrown »

you made my week!

I tried installing my debs on my wife's computer but they had many video problems. I'm pretty sure that was my fault for using the nvidia installer and letting it overwrite the libgl stuff. (My wife has an ATI card.)

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Re: it's kde4libs

#19 Post by Jackiebrown »

cassianoleal wrote:try kde4libs instead of kdelibs5.

cheers!
cassianoleal - ana is one of the kde debian maintainers.

Ana - do we monitor your blog or will it be posted on the Debian KDE 4 page?

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Re: it's kde4libs

#20 Post by mensch »

Jackiebrown wrote:cassianoleal - ana is one of the kde debian maintainers.
I think he was replying to my question. ;)

Using kde4libs instead of kdelibs5 didn't do the trick either. But since Ana made the happy announcement I think I'm going to wait for the packages.

On the other hand it might be good to now how to make svn packages in the future (when work on 4.3 is under way), so I might try to build it myself anyway.
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