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Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
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Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Hi there,
I'm running a dual boot laptop with Debian 5.04 and Ubuntu 10.04. I was wondering if I could install software that's not originally built for Debian, such as gmusicbrowser, which I find the best player for my library. Do I have just to add the APT line to the permitted repositories? What about dependencies? I know you'll probably tell me to use another juke box player, but it is also a matter of curiosity.
Thanks.
I'm running a dual boot laptop with Debian 5.04 and Ubuntu 10.04. I was wondering if I could install software that's not originally built for Debian, such as gmusicbrowser, which I find the best player for my library. Do I have just to add the APT line to the permitted repositories? What about dependencies? I know you'll probably tell me to use another juke box player, but it is also a matter of curiosity.
Thanks.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Package gmusicbrowser
* squeeze (testing) (sound): graphic jukebox for large collections of mp3/ogg/flac/mpc files
1.0.2-2: all
* sid (unstable) (sound): graphic jukebox for large collections of mp3/ogg/flac/mpc files
1.0.2-2: all
It is not in stable, so what you can do is create your own backport.
Install the Debian source (and the development tools, especially debhelper), and then build the package. Step by step:
1. add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list
# Unstable Sources
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get build-dep packagename
4. apt-get -b source packagename
5. the resulting debs should be in the current directory, install it with dpkg -i packagename
* squeeze (testing) (sound): graphic jukebox for large collections of mp3/ogg/flac/mpc files
1.0.2-2: all
* sid (unstable) (sound): graphic jukebox for large collections of mp3/ogg/flac/mpc files
1.0.2-2: all
It is not in stable, so what you can do is create your own backport.
Install the Debian source (and the development tools, especially debhelper), and then build the package. Step by step:
1. add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list
# Unstable Sources
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get build-dep packagename
4. apt-get -b source packagename
5. the resulting debs should be in the current directory, install it with dpkg -i packagename
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Even easier: http://gmusicbrowser.org/download.html
For debian/ubuntu users, a very basic repository is available by adding this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list :
deb http://gmusicbrowser.org/deb ./
To check the authenticity of the package, you need to import this key into your trusted software providers list.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Awesome didn't have that in my Giant sources.list.julian67 wrote:Even easier: http://gmusicbrowser.org/download.html
For debian/ubuntu users, a very basic repository is available by adding this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list :
deb http://gmusicbrowser.org/deb ./
To check the authenticity of the package, you need to import this key into your trusted software providers list.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
That is most assuredly a bad idea.
That is most assuredly a bad idea.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Why so? APT is very capable, even if a program would not work you can always remove it, also if it wants to write on files that belongs to other packages it will fail, so what's the risk? If there's no Debian package available you can try at least to see if the Ubuntu package works. That of course if you don't have such a distaste (and mental sickness, see my sig) that would stop you behave rationally...mzilikazi wrote:Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
That is most assuredly a bad idea.
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Simply installing a single Ubuntu package can cause apt/aptitude/dpkg to have issues. Just search over at linuxquestions.org for all the people that had issues installing the Adobe flash package. Ubuntu packages are not compatible with Debian they change too many things. If you want Ubuntu then you run Ubuntu, if you want Debian run Debian do not mix the two.AdrianTM wrote:Why so? APT is very capable, even if a program would not work you can always remove it, also if it wants to write on files that belongs to other packages it will fail, so what's the risk? If there's no Debian package available you can try at least to see if the Ubuntu package works. That of course if you don't have such a distaste (and mental sickness, see my sig) that would stop you behave rationally...mzilikazi wrote:Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
That is most assuredly a bad idea.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
If you really need a piece of software for which no official binary package exists, consider building your own: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976
Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
I don't buy it. I haven't tested this, but I won't take the words of noobs on this either. APT is great, if something doesn't work simply remove it.Simply installing a single Ubuntu package can cause apt/aptitude/dpkg to have issues. Just search over at linuxquestions.org [...]
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Test this then:AdrianTM wrote:I don't buy it. I haven't tested this, but I won't take the words of noobs on this either. APT is great, if something doesn't work simply remove it.Simply installing a single Ubuntu package can cause apt/aptitude/dpkg to have issues. Just search over at linuxquestions.org [...]
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wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7_i386.deb && dpkg --force-all -i ./libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Oh, here's the stupidity.dpkg --force-all
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Even for you I find this completely obserd!! You have been around Debian long enough to expressly know why this is not a good idea. Up to this point I had thought you had at least "some" common sense to go with your new occupation of defending poor Ubuntu from the nasty "Ubuntu haters" on the "Elitest" Debian forum.AdrianTM wrote:Why so? APT is very capable, even if a program would not work you can always remove it, also if it wants to write on files that belongs to other packages it will fail, so what's the risk? If there's no Debian package available you can try at least to see if the Ubuntu package works. That of course if you don't have such a distaste (and mental sickness, see my sig) that would stop you behave rationally...mzilikazi wrote:Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
That is most assuredly a bad idea.
Oddly, I thought you had more class than to try and make it sound like this is something "completely normal" and an acceptable everyday practice. Do you not have any respect or regard at all for others? In essance you are encuraging others that are not as well informed as you should be by now to destabalize or completely break their systems by introducing foreign packages designed for a bianarliy incompatable distro.
It really disturbes me that you would stoop this low just to exhonorate your beloved Ubuntu.
Having said all that, I know that not "every" package designed "exclusively" for Ubuntu will distroy a stable Debian install. However, why take the risk when there are other options availible? Especially when so many Ubuntu packages "will" destabilize or completely brake an otherwise stable and usable Debian system.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
When have we hired illiterate mods?
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While some things have never been important to me, intelligence is not measured by what one knows or remembers. It is instead measured by ones ability to come up with credible solutions.AdrianTM wrote:When have we hired illiterate mods?
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Just one example:
[SOLVED] Can't open synaptic after trying install flash deb of ubuntu - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... tu-739384/
One single package screwed up the poor guys system, just one. It is never a good idea to install ubuntu packages on Debian.
Either find a repo that has the package you want or build a backport yourself.
Anyone that says it is OK to install a package not made for a distro is either insane or totally clueless.
There aren't that many packages that ubuntu has that can't be found for Debian.
[SOLVED] Can't open synaptic after trying install flash deb of ubuntu - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... tu-739384/
One single package screwed up the poor guys system, just one. It is never a good idea to install ubuntu packages on Debian.
Either find a repo that has the package you want or build a backport yourself.
Anyone that says it is OK to install a package not made for a distro is either insane or totally clueless.
There aren't that many packages that ubuntu has that can't be found for Debian.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 36#p296402
I have reported the posts of AdrianTM. One of them has been changed/removed. An adequate answer would be beyond the realm of words.
I am very disappointed why one needs to attack another user personally in such a manner.
Its a shame.
I have reported the posts of AdrianTM. One of them has been changed/removed. An adequate answer would be beyond the realm of words.
I am very disappointed why one needs to attack another user personally in such a manner.
Its a shame.
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
Do you want me to explain? I can.nadir wrote:http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 36#p296402
I have reported the posts. An adequate answer would be beyond the realm of words.
I am very disappointed why one needs to attack another user personally in such a manner.
Its a shame.
First of all notice who attacked personally first:
Funny, right?Even for you I find this completely obserd!!
Moderator talk?Up to this point I had thought you had at least "some" common sense[...]
Again, coming unprovoked from somebody that I didn't even address.Oddly, I thought you had more class [...]
Not for people with IQ in two digits.Do you not have any respect or regard at all for others?
In essence if you don't understand a point, don't get involved.In essance you are encuraging others that are not as well informed as you should be by now to destabalize or completely break their systems by introducing foreign packages designed for a bianarliy incompatable distro.
Seeing so much stupidity coming from a mod on this forum is disturbing to me.It really disturbes me that you would stoop this low [...]
**** you, don't pretend you know what I think and what I like.your beloved Ubuntu.
1. My point was that APT is a good tool and if you don't do stupid things like installing a foreign deb with --force-all it will reasonably protect you.
2. There's nothing magic about .debs. You can unpack them manually, it's just file files! You can even run an unpacked program from a deb, the problem is if you overwrite important files, see point one.
3. I don't even defend Ubuntu here, the point is about any debs and APT.
4. I don't encourage people to do anything I just expressed a technical personal opinion and I was personally attacked by a moderator, how do you expect to react? You can disagree, you can say that my idea is dangerous but to come with personal attacks like that is "redeculous" to quote one of our mods.
5. English is my third language, I don't criticize people for English mistakes, but it starts to get on my nerves when I see mods haven't discovered the great tool called "spell-checker" yet.
6. And most importantly you can disagree with me like other people did in that thread without attacking my person and without rolling your eyes (especially when your knowledge is limited and don't really get what I'm talking about).
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Re: Installing Ubuntu packages on Debian
And finally, to return the discussion to the technical issues, can anybody find me an official Ubuntu (or any other deb distro) package that installs cleanly on Debian (by "cleanly" I mean without using --force-all) that breaks APT and can't be removed cleanly (and here by cleanly I mean without leaving any major problems behind)? Thanks!
I don't even claim that's impossible, I don't think it's likely, as I said "I don't buy it".
I don't even claim that's impossible, I don't think it's likely, as I said "I don't buy it".
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