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New kid in town.

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Re: New kid in town.

#21 Post by eric1959 »

I'm working on a Debian site as well
Not a website, but a blog : http://debian-bits-and-snips.blogspot.com/
Have used Ubuntu in the past :oops: ( starting from version 5.04 till version 8.04 ). Glad that I moved to Debian ( first Lenny, then on my new pc Squeeze ).
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Re: New kid in town.

#22 Post by nomko »

eric1959 wrote:Have used Ubuntu in the past :oops:
Why being embarresed about Ubuntu?? I think many linux users today made their first steps with Ubuntu since it's much more user friendly then Debian.
The learning curve is less steep.
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Re: New kid in town.

#23 Post by eric1959 »

:oops: I meant : :twisted: Ubuntu was buggy...And yes I've learned quite a few things about linux, thanks to Ubuntu. But still I think Debian is better :D
And no, I don't like Smilies :?:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85U-77_5lWk Tulips from Amsterdam...
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Re: New kid in town.

#24 Post by MeanDean »

nomko wrote:Why being embarresed about Ubuntu??
its like driving a 4cylinder turbo mustang and thinking it is awesome and has a lot of power....and then driving a real mustang with a V8 and realizing your folly...
I think many linux users today made their first steps with Ubuntu since it's much more user friendly then Debian.
keyword - think
The learning curve is less steep.
I still haven't figured out how to use ubuntu....never can get it to do crap I want....or at least not do crap I dont want....

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Re: New kid in town.

#25 Post by yog-sothoth »

MeanDean wrote:
nomko wrote:Why being embarresed about Ubuntu??
its like driving a 4cylinder turbo mustang and thinking it is awesome and has a lot of power....and then driving a real mustang with a V8 and realizing your folly...
And then, there's the lameness factor. (that's the OMG, lol) :shock:
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Re: New kid in town.

#26 Post by AMLJ »

MeanDean wrote:
nomko wrote:Why being embarresed about Ubuntu??
its like driving a 4cylinder turbo mustang and thinking it is awesome and has a lot of power....and then driving a real mustang with a V8 and realizing your folly...
I think many linux users today made their first steps with Ubuntu since it's much more user friendly then Debian.
keyword - think
The learning curve is less steep.
I still haven't figured out how to use ubuntu....never can get it to do crap I want....or at least not do crap I dont want....
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Re: New kid in town.

#27 Post by edbarx »

I moved to Debian from knoppix. I tried Ubuntu for, maybe, a couple of desolate hours... but, mysteriously, user programs started crashing on me reminding me of Windows 95/98/2000ME blue screen of death! Moreover, I hate things being done for me, especially, if they are done the way I don't want them to be. Ubuntu has too much of that dose.
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Re: New kid in town.

#28 Post by ripat »

Started with GUIless Woody back in 2002. Tried Ubuntu a couple of times but always ended up replacing it with Debian. Not that I disliked Ubuntu, I just happen to prefer Debian that's all. I feel home with it. I am running a squeeze 64 now and I just enjoy the ride!
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Re: New kid in town.

#29 Post by nomko »

edbarx wrote:I moved to Debian from knoppix. I tried Ubuntu for, maybe, a couple of desolate hours... but, mysteriously, user programs started crashing on me reminding me of Windows 95/98/2000ME blue screen of death! Moreover, I hate things being done for me, especially, if they are done the way I don't want them to be. Ubuntu has too much of that dose.
What i have learned about computers:

It is not the computer makes mistakes, it's the user who works with the computer that makes mistakes!

If you can't work with Ubuntu, it's not the fault of Ubuntu but your own fault. Not understanding Ubuntu and not willing to learn Ubuntu and do things which can't be done with Ubuntu are the faults of the users. A computer does nothing without a user who gives the command's.
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Re: New kid in town.

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nomko wrote:What i have learned about computers:

It is not the computer makes mistakes, it's the user who works with the computer that makes mistakes!

If you can't work with Ubuntu, it's not the fault of Ubuntu but your own fault. Not understanding Ubuntu and not willing to learn Ubuntu and do things which can't be done with Ubuntu are the faults of the users. A computer does nothing without a user who gives the command's.
So basically what you're saying is that one OS can't be better or worse than any other OS? :roll:
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Re: New kid in town.

#31 Post by nadir »

Ubuntu is a computer?
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Re: New kid in town.

#32 Post by nomko »

mojoman wrote:
nomko wrote:What i have learned about computers:

It is not the computer makes mistakes, it's the user who works with the computer that makes mistakes!

If you can't work with Ubuntu, it's not the fault of Ubuntu but your own fault. Not understanding Ubuntu and not willing to learn Ubuntu and do things which can't be done with Ubuntu are the faults of the users. A computer does nothing without a user who gives the command's.
So basically what you're saying is that one OS can't be better or worse than any other OS? :roll:
No, basically i say is that 99,9% of everything what goes wrong is the fault of the user. that 0.1% is de OS and it doesn't matter which OS it is. Computers are stupid machines which can't do nothing on their own, they need human input. Even een programmable logic controller neds human input otherwise it's just a piece of worthless plastic and wires.

If someone has problems with Ubuntu (or any other OS) it's NOT the OS to blaim, but the user.
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Re: New kid in town.

#33 Post by debil »

ubuntu sucks
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Re: New kid in town.

#34 Post by eric1959 »

......NOT the OS to blaim, but the user.
I did a Google search for blaim , Google asked nicely Did you mean: blame , so if unsure about correct spelling trust Google or use : http://nicetranslator.com/
Just a hint... :wink:
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Re: New kid in town.

#35 Post by MeanDean »

nomko wrote: If someone has problems with Ubuntu (or any other OS) it's NOT the OS to blaim, but the user.
So if you have problems with debian wouldn't that mean......uh......well......uh.......

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Re: New kid in town.

#36 Post by mojoman »

MeanDean wrote:
nomko wrote: If someone has problems with Ubuntu (or any other OS) it's NOT the OS to blaim, but the user.
So if you have problems with debian wouldn't that mean......uh......well......uh.......
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Re: New kid in town.

#37 Post by edbarx »

nomko wrote:What i have learned about computers:

It is not the computer makes mistakes, it's the user who works with the computer that makes mistakes!
Oh, I didn't know that. So, let me think... when, in the not so remote past, Windows 95 used to greet me with the cute blue screen, it was my fault... When Windows 3.11 used to complain of a general protection fault, it was not Windows fault. Finally, but not least, when I purchased my first computer back in December 1994, and got a faulty Pentium 1 chip notwithstanding I made it a point with the supplier, that I knew of the infamous Pentium 1 bug, it was also my fault... :roll: :? :shock:
nomko wrote:If you can't work with Ubuntu, it's not the fault of Ubuntu but your own fault.
Oh, again another enlightening piece of philosophy that makes the early Greeks green with envy. :mrgreen:
Ubuntu used to greet me with crashing programs... If it were my fault, it would have been because, I was a developer for Ubuntu without my knowledge!
Not understanding Ubuntu and not willing to learn Ubuntu and do things which can't be done with Ubuntu are the faults of the users.
Nah, Ubuntu tastes too bad for my taste buds!!! It stinks of sudo treating me as if I had no brain...
If wanted a system paranoid about its user, I would be still using Windows, but NO, I wanted a system that treats its users with dignity and that didn't made the assumption that all human beings must be zombies.
A computer does nothing without a user who gives the command's.
... and what about the kernel's scheduler and the daemons running in the background?

Edit: to correct an error.
Debian == { > 30, 000 packages }; Debian != systemd
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Re: New kid in town.

#38 Post by Kittum »

Hello I'm new in this town!

I'm a former Ubuntoo knockoff user that has converted to Debian - if for no other reason it is easier to spell.

I was wondering if it is safe to say MINT LMDE in here or should I run and hide? :?

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Re: New kid in town.

#39 Post by TobiSGD »

It is safe to say LMDE here, but since your OS is Linux Mint, and not Debian, be sure to post in the Offtopic section if you have any issues with it.

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Re: New kid in town.

#40 Post by dotlj »

Hello I'm new in this town!

I'm a former Ubuntoo knockoff user that has converted to Debian - if for no other reason it is easier to spell.

I was wondering if it is safe to say MINT LMDE in here or should I run and hide? :?
Hi, welcome to Debian and the forums,

Everyone here was new at one point, most have come from using any number of other distros, some from using other OS's too.
There is lots of useful information - start with http://www.debian.org and go from there.

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