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Post your booting time
Post your booting time
Now that i'm using Etch, it seems to me my box boots faster. I clocked it, and from beginning to end (inside the X system) it's 1 minute and 5 seconds, before was something like 1:24 .
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I have been using Etch from the beginning. Thanks to a good advice from an experienced Knoppix user.
I use almost the same PC processing power as you Lou: PII clocking at 350mHZ and 128M RAM. From the debian grub boot to the login screen, it just took 45 seconds, at most 50 secs. Before, the PC was running Windows 98SE platform which took ages to boot up and very often crash and there were a lot of blue screens of death. Thankfully, since my first installation of Etch, I had ZERO crash and instability problems.
I use almost the same PC processing power as you Lou: PII clocking at 350mHZ and 128M RAM. From the debian grub boot to the login screen, it just took 45 seconds, at most 50 secs. Before, the PC was running Windows 98SE platform which took ages to boot up and very often crash and there were a lot of blue screens of death. Thankfully, since my first installation of Etch, I had ZERO crash and instability problems.
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This is what i show enabled in sysvconfig:
apmd
exim4
fetchmail
firehol
killprocs
klogd
makedev
modutils
openbsd-inetd
rc.local
stop-bootlogd
sysklogd
umountfs
umountfs.sh
umountroot
urandom
I did not touch the ones that say 'Don't mess with this'
Is there something i can disable of this list?
firehol is my firewall if you're wondering.
apmd
exim4
fetchmail
firehol
killprocs
klogd
makedev
modutils
openbsd-inetd
rc.local
stop-bootlogd
sysklogd
umountfs
umountfs.sh
umountroot
urandom
I did not touch the ones that say 'Don't mess with this'
Is there something i can disable of this list?
firehol is my firewall if you're wondering.
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I clocked it again, and it takes 48 secs to the login.rickh wrote:From Grub to Desktop is about 40 seconds. ... auto-login thru gdm.
Hmm, i don't know much about this, but IIRC, you need something, be it Postfix, Exim, etc, and something to get it from there, like fetchmail, and then a mail app like mutt or t-bird, or whatever. Like i said i'm not an expert. What do you use? Do you get your mail without exim/postfix/sendmail what? or maybe sendmail does not apply here.Unless you're actually running a mail server, you don't need exim4
Can somebody clarify this?
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On my AMD64 laptop, Etch goes from Grub to GDM in less than 30 seconds.
Very fast, faster than Ubuntu Dapper or Edgy on the same machine. This is a default install of Etch with the Desktop picked at time of install.
I could probably get the the times down if I start looking at what starts up, I did see a lot of daemons starting that I would probably not be using.
Very fast, faster than Ubuntu Dapper or Edgy on the same machine. This is a default install of Etch with the Desktop picked at time of install.
I could probably get the the times down if I start looking at what starts up, I did see a lot of daemons starting that I would probably not be using.
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Host/Kernel/OS "craigevil" running Linux 2.6.18.5-slh-up-1 i686 [ Debian Sid ]
CPU Info AMD Duron clocked at [ 1800.096 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] X.Org 7.1.1 [ 1024x768 @75hz ]
Processes 86 | Uptime 1day | Memory 622.902/629.402MB | HDD Size 80GB (29%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.76 | Client Shell | Infobash v2.53
Services that boot in init 5: ( i have kdm set to only start in init 5 not 2-5)
kdm
acpid
atd
cron
gpm
guarddog
klogd
makedev
privoxy
sysklogd
Cold boot to KDE desktop takes 30-35 seconds.
CPU Info AMD Duron clocked at [ 1800.096 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] X.Org 7.1.1 [ 1024x768 @75hz ]
Processes 86 | Uptime 1day | Memory 622.902/629.402MB | HDD Size 80GB (29%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.76 | Client Shell | Infobash v2.53
Services that boot in init 5: ( i have kdm set to only start in init 5 not 2-5)
kdm
acpid
atd
cron
gpm
guarddog
klogd
makedev
privoxy
sysklogd
Cold boot to KDE desktop takes 30-35 seconds.
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lou, www.linuxbios.org to cut down the boot time (:
a bunch of new amd machines coming out soon will actually ship with it from manufacturer
a bunch of new amd machines coming out soon will actually ship with it from manufacturer
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Unless you're actually running a mail server, you don't need exim4
Client mail apps (mail user agents) like t-bird, sylpheed or evolution do not need mail systems at all to function. They use the smtp and pop servers provided by your ISP. I have been running Linux for 10 years and have been happily checking and sending my mail without sendmail, exim4, fetchmail, getmail, etc...Hmm, i don't know much about this, but IIRC, you need something, be it Postfix, Exim, etc, and something to get it from there, like fetchmail, and then a mail app like mutt or t-bird, or whatever. Like i said i'm not an expert. What do you use? Do you get your mail without exim/postfix/sendmail what? or maybe sendmail does not apply here.
Can somebody clarify this?
That's true. The thing is, i use mutt or pine because they are faster. And i took exim4 from the list (sysvconfig), and the mail didn't work, so i put it back. Exim4 comes with the debian install by default, so maybe users are using it without realizing it. As for smtp you have to put your isp address when configuring it for smtp or pop3. We all have done it so, but t-bird got so slow, because of my hardware and memory limitations, i had to go to mutt.Client mail apps (mail user agents) like t-bird, sylpheed or evolution do not need mail systems at all to function. They use the smtp and pop servers provided by your ISP. I have been running Linux for 10 years and have been happily checking and sending my mail without sendmail, exim4, fetchmail, getmail, etc...
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Boot time: 650 Duron: Total time from power on to desktop completely loaded: 1 min, 15-50 sec, depends on manager, Unstable. Using a manual login because I prefer it.
Breakdown:
25 seconds while MB does POST, and grub finally loads. Hit enter before 3 second grub wait, yes I could reduce it or eliminate it but why?
45 seconds for kernel 2.6.19 to load, all sound card, video card and network card drivers not needed have been unchecked. Don't need ipv6 so that is gone also. Iptables are supported, Every time I compile a new kernel, I remove ONE item, I think I don't need. This time includes loading xdm which has been customized, changed some colors and included a background image. Use HTTP gmail so don't need exim4.
After login:
5 seconds for fluxbox
20 seconds for xfce
30 seconds for Gnome
40 seconds (or more) for kde, depends on music at startup.
I use xdm for fluxbox or xfce, kdm for Gnome or KDE. Xdm not as easy to use as kdm but I have no problems with it.
Breakdown:
25 seconds while MB does POST, and grub finally loads. Hit enter before 3 second grub wait, yes I could reduce it or eliminate it but why?
45 seconds for kernel 2.6.19 to load, all sound card, video card and network card drivers not needed have been unchecked. Don't need ipv6 so that is gone also. Iptables are supported, Every time I compile a new kernel, I remove ONE item, I think I don't need. This time includes loading xdm which has been customized, changed some colors and included a background image. Use HTTP gmail so don't need exim4.
After login:
5 seconds for fluxbox
20 seconds for xfce
30 seconds for Gnome
40 seconds (or more) for kde, depends on music at startup.
I use xdm for fluxbox or xfce, kdm for Gnome or KDE. Xdm not as easy to use as kdm but I have no problems with it.
Funny you should mention that - I love the functionality and interface of t-bird and evo, but they are so bloated, especially evo. I have been using Sylpheed for several years now, and it is very lightweight. Not as lightweight as mutt, but it works really well. The only thing that's funky with it is it wraps URLs in html emails making them unusable, and it uses MH format for the mailboxes, so all of your mails are "one per file". No big deal, it's just that most other mailers use MBOX or MAILDIR.Lou wrote:That's true. The thing is, i use mutt or pine because they are faster. And i took exim4 from the list (sysvconfig), and the mail didn't work, so i put it back. Exim4 comes with the debian install by default, so maybe users are using it without realizing it. As for smtp you have to put your isp address when configuring it for smtp or pop3. We all have done it so, but t-bird got so slow, because of my hardware and memory limitations, i had to go to mutt.Client mail apps (mail user agents) like t-bird, sylpheed or evolution do not need mail systems at all to function. They use the smtp and pop servers provided by your ISP. I have been running Linux for 10 years and have been happily checking and sending my mail without sendmail, exim4, fetchmail, getmail, etc...
Exim4 is like sendmail, right? I've only set up sendmail, fetchmail and procmail a couple of times when I was playing around with mutt, but I've never experiemented with anything else.
Yeah, sendmail, exim4, and postfix do the same. Fetchmail, getmail retrieves the mail from one of the above, and mutt, sylpheed or t-bird, etc displays it.sargek wrote: Exim4 is like sendmail, right? I've only set up sendmail, fetchmail and procmail a couple of times when I was playing around with mutt, but I've never experiemented with anything else.
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As you may or may not know, I did a small set of upgrades on Jan 25, 2007 and afterwards, I decided to set up my computer as a dual boot system, there are a few programs I need windows for, so rather than bug my wife to use her computer, I now can boot Debian or WindowsXP. I decided to do a fresh Debian install, as I changed a couple of things that my kernel didn't support and I wanted to blow away some of the crap I installed but didn't use any more. I moved my data to safe place and proceeded to blow away my old install. I decided to download a new netinstall iso, I couldn't find one for unstable so I downloaded the new etch installer, it's getting there but there are much nicer ones, mepis and Mandrake or whatever the free one is called now.
Still, I was up and running in less than two hours, including upgrading to unstable, but I didn't select desktop when I installed, I wanted to install Xfce4 without adding the bloat of kde or gnome, except for those programs I want. Once done, I had to time my new install and computer.
From button press on to login takes 30 seconds but I'm not using any gui for the login. once I log in, it takes 2 seconds to show the user prompt. I then type in "startxfce4" which I will automate later and 12 seconds later Xfce4 is fully loaded. I was using Fluxbox and DR17 (Enlightenment) but I decided to go with the mouse.
Oh yes, I almost forgot, I had a much easier time reinstalling Debian than I did installing Windows.
Still, I was up and running in less than two hours, including upgrading to unstable, but I didn't select desktop when I installed, I wanted to install Xfce4 without adding the bloat of kde or gnome, except for those programs I want. Once done, I had to time my new install and computer.
From button press on to login takes 30 seconds but I'm not using any gui for the login. once I log in, it takes 2 seconds to show the user prompt. I then type in "startxfce4" which I will automate later and 12 seconds later Xfce4 is fully loaded. I was using Fluxbox and DR17 (Enlightenment) but I decided to go with the mouse.
Oh yes, I almost forgot, I had a much easier time reinstalling Debian than I did installing Windows.
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