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VLC and Debian Multimedia repo [SOLVED]

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strungoutfan78
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#21 Post by strungoutfan78 »

From what I gather, prior to Lenny apt-get failed to flag dependencies, leaving behind unnecessary libraries and what-not when you end up un-installing a package. Supposedly apt-get and aptitude both handle automatic dependencies the same way now. To each his own. I don't really think one is better than the other. Each has its own strong suits.

emariz
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#22 Post by emariz »

Your problem is that you are trying to remove packages from Debian itself, and not from Deb Multimedia.

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$ apt-cache policy libavutil-dev

  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato:  6:0.8.3-1~bpo60+1
  Tabla de versión:
     6:0.8.3-7 0
          1 http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
     6:0.8.3-1~bpo60+1 0
        500 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main amd64 Packages
     5:0.7.13-dmo2 0
        500 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian-multimedia/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
     4:0.5.9-1 0
        500 http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages
     4:0.5.6-3 0
        500 http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages

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$ apt-cache policy libavutil49

  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato:  4:0.5.9-1
  Tabla de versión:
     4:0.5.9-1 0
        500 http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages
     4:0.5.6-3 0
        500 http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar/pub/linux/debian/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages

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$ apt-cache policy libavutil50

  Instalados: (ninguno)
  Candidato:  5:0.7.13-dmo2
  Tabla de versión:
     5:0.7.13-dmo2 0
        500 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian-multimedia/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
Just use Aptitude's graphical interface to purge libavutil50 (the packages that it breaks come from Deb Multimedia too) and downgrade libavutil-dev.

The APT Pinning suggested by kedaha is not useful if the Deb Multimedia has already been removed (like in this case), and is unnecessary if one uses Aptitude's graphical interface (which allows downgrading.)

strungoutfan78 wrote:When I issue the command:

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aptitude -t squeeze-backports install *package*
what is actually happening? There is no pinning going on here, right? It's simply installing *package* from backports?
There is a "temporary" use of APT Pinning, for the priority of the Backports repository is 1 and the priority of the Debian one is 500 (run apt-cache policy and you will see.) When one uses the --target-release option, one gives that repository/release the highest priority, turning its contents into installable candidates. This means that the package manager will install that package and solve its dependency chain using that repository.

Read the manual pages of aptitude and apt_preferences, more than once, and then have a look at these:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=437802#p437802
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=429968#p429968
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=405215#p405215
Last edited by emariz on 2012-09-18 20:59, edited 2 times in total.

strungoutfan78
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#23 Post by strungoutfan78 »

Well, I did as you suggested with aptitude's GUI and managed to remove a majority of the orphaned packages, removing only 6 packages and downgrading 7 while not breaking anything. deborphan now only lists:

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gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
libdb4.6
nautilus-dropbox
libwxsmithlib0
libmhash2
I'm still having absolutely no luck with vlc or audacious, however, but I must say, using the GUI for aptitude is rather confusing at first but it is very powerful. I think I much prefer it over Synaptic, which I never use anyway because, as you said, it's too stupid. Great info in those links too, BTW. Thanks.

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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#24 Post by kedaha »

strungoutfan78 wrote:Well, I did as you suggested with aptitude's GUI
Just quibbling but I think it is a TUI -a Text User interface - not a GUI. :wink:
DebianStable

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$ vrms

No non-free or contrib packages installed on debian!  rms would be proud.

strungoutfan78
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#25 Post by strungoutfan78 »

kedaha wrote:
strungoutfan78 wrote:Well, I did as you suggested with aptitude's GUI
Just quibbling but I think it is a TUI -a Text User interface - not a GUI. :wink:
True. You are correct.:smile:

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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#26 Post by kedaha »

Now that you have sorted out the official repositories from the deb-multimedia ones, may I suggest you post other topics to look at the issues with VLC and audacious? I've never tried audacious but I sometimes use my backports version VLC, 2.0.3-1 and it works OK but it would be interesting to see the replies. Thanks
DebianStable

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$ vrms

No non-free or contrib packages installed on debian!  rms would be proud.

emariz
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#27 Post by emariz »

strungoutfan78 wrote:Well, I did as you suggested with aptitude's GUI and managed to remove a majority of the orphaned packages, removing only 6 packages and downgrading 7 while not breaking anything. deborphan now only lists:

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gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
libdb4.6
nautilus-dropbox
libwxsmithlib0
libmhash2
The output of deborphan is not equal to the output of aptitude search ?obsolete. There may be many packages whose installation cannot be traced back to another installed package and therefore are marked as "orphans," but this does not mean that one does not want/need them. For example, if one builds the system without meta-packages, many applications that constitute the base will be listed as "orphans."

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$ su -c 'deborphan --all-packages'

main/gnome                gnome-screenshot
main/gnome                gnome-brave-icon-theme
main/text                 most
main/utils                gstreamer-tools
main/gnome                gnome-system-monitor
main/utils                gconf-editor
main/editors              libreoffice-impress
contrib/utils             microcode.ctl
main/x11                  xorg
main/utils                pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring
main/sound                sound-juicer
main/utils                powertop
main/gnome                pyrenamer
main/editors              libreoffice-writer
main/admin                testdisk
main/kernel               linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
main/net                  traceroute
main/doc                  manpages
main/gnome                libreoffice-gnome
main/math                 gcalctool
main/gnome                file-roller
main/sound                eyed3
main/sound                flac
main/misc                 deb-multimedia-keyring
main/admin                gnome-disk-utility
main/admin                rcconf
main/net                  netcat-traditional
main/gnome                baobab
main/gnome                gnome-xcf-thumbnailer
main/utils                acpi
main/kernel               linux-image-amd64
main/doc                  info
main/net                  iputils-ping
main/editors              nano
main/admin                discover
main/gnome                network-manager-gnome
non-free/web              flashplayer-mozilla
main/editors              libreoffice-calc
main/admin                localepurge

strungoutfan78
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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#28 Post by strungoutfan78 »

You make a good point. I don't always use meta-packages myself and I see that aptitude search ?obsolete does give me quite a list still. I think I'm ok with where my system is at now. At least I've made the switch to backports. I will definitely be posting another topic regarding vlc and audacious specifically. Thanks for all the help.

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Re: VLC and Debian Multimedia repo

#29 Post by strungoutfan78 »

kedaha wrote:Now that you have sorted out the official repositories from the deb-multimedia ones, may I suggest you post other topics to look at the issues with VLC and audacious? I've never tried audacious but I sometimes use my backports version VLC, 2.0.3-1 and it works OK but it would be interesting to see the replies. Thanks
I've posted it here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=84780

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