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Compiz on wheezy?

Postby ashourism » 2013-09-13 23:48

hi,

i used compiz once on ubuntu and i liked its effects, i've checked online about it and it seems there is an issue in compiz for wheezy, however people have been saying backport it, and i am not sure whats backporting?

i am really a newbie to debian and linux in general, but i am trying to learn more by tweaking and hacking as much as i can into the system.

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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby robert3242 » 2013-09-14 03:06

ashourism wrote:hi,

i used compiz once on ubuntu and i liked its effects, i've checked online about it and it seems there is an issue in compiz for wheezy, however people have been saying backport it, and i am not sure whats backporting?

i am really a newbie to debian and linux in general, but i am trying to learn more by tweaking and hacking as much as i can into the system.

Thanks


Debian Backports is a service which takes packages from the "Testing" branch and attempts to make them work correctly with the "Stable" branch. Wheezy is currently the stable branch. The advantage to using backports is that it lets you use some newer packages than are ever available in "stable" without having to actually run the "testing" system as a whole. Many people here, I suspect, have used backports before. I have, and I've had relatively good luck in doing so. However, I normally don't bother, because I don't care if my software is closer to "cutting edge" or not so long as it meets my needs. For more info on Debian Backports, see: http://backports.debian.org/ and please do read the instructions very carefully if you decide to make use of the service.

As for compiz in particular, I did a quick check and didn't find it available in backports, but I may have missed it or it could turn up later even if it isn't there now. Hope that helps.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby confuseling » 2013-09-14 03:58

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I would imagine they mean building it from Debianised source, found in Ubuntu's launchpad. How easy that is varies from package to package, because libraries' names and versions change. Maybe paths as well, I don't know.

Try having a look through stevepusser's posts - he seems to know more about it than anyone else...

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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby stevepusser » 2013-09-14 04:49

Hey--did someone mention my name?

Anyway, I'd take the easy way out and add a snapshot of the wheezy repo to your sources.list file from a month or so ago, when compiz was still in it, then just install it in the regular fashion. Remember to disable the repo afterwards. See snapshot.debian.org for more info.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby stevepusser » 2013-09-14 04:51

Hey--did someone mention my name?

Anyway, I'd take the easy way out and add a snapshot of the wheezy repo to your sources.list file from a month or so ago, when compiz was still in it, then just install it in the regular fashion. Remember to disable the repo afterwards. See snapshot.debian.org for more info.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby kmathern » 2013-09-14 04:54

stevepusser wrote:Hey--did someone mention my name?

Anyway, I'd take the easy way out and add a snapshot of the wheezy repo to your sources.list file from a month or so ago, when compiz was still in it, then just install it in the regular fashion. Remember to disable the repo afterwards. See snapshot.debian.org for more info.

viewtopic.php?p=511010#p511010.

And it's a snapshot of the sid repo that you need to add instead of a wheezy snapshot.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby Gunman1982 » 2013-09-14 12:08

kmathern wrote:viewtopic.php?p=511010#p511010.

And it's a snapshot of the sid repo that you need to add instead of a wheezy snapshot.


You could take a wheezy/testing snapshot from before 2012-06-19. Same version anyway since the testing/sid version wasn't updated for a veeeeeeery long time on debian.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby kmathern » 2013-09-14 13:11

Gunman1982 wrote:
kmathern wrote:viewtopic.php?p=511010#p511010.

And it's a snapshot of the sid repo that you need to add instead of a wheezy snapshot.


You could take a wheezy/testing snapshot from before 2012-06-19. Same version anyway since the testing/sid version wasn't updated for a veeeeeeery long time on debian.

I was getting ready to update my post to say something along those lines.

A wheezy snapshot between the dates of 2012-06-09 & 2012-06-19 should also work for installing compiz. It would be the same version of compiz that was removed from sid on 2013-08-16.

On 2012-06-09 the compiz 0.8.4-5.2 packages were "MIGRATED" to testing (which was wheezy at that time), they were removed on 2012-06-19. (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/compiz.html)

Use a snapshot in between those dates, say 2012-06-16 (use this list http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/?year=2012&month=6 to find the available snapshots)
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deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120616T042917Z/ wheezy main


Update repos with
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apt-get -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update
(need to add '-o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false' to the `apt-get update` command, otherwise it will complain about the snapshot repo's expired release file.)

Install with
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apt-get install compiz -t wheezy


Disable or remove the snapshot repo after compiz has been installed.


editted post on Oct. 09, 2013 -- changed from using a 2012-06-18 snapshot, to a 2012-06-16 snapshot because the earlier snapshot includes both compiz & ccsm (Compiz Config Settings Manager)
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby reset042 » 2013-10-08 07:42

Huge thanks for these instructions! Using Ctrl Alt and mouse-1 to switch to, or sneak a view of another desktop is so ingrained in my way of working, and has been for several years now, that it's a real pain for me not to have it. I know some people think Compiz is just silly eye-candy, but truthfully, for me, it's a great productivity tool. (Imagine that a keystroke combination you use regularly (say, for example, Ctrl C) was suddenly taken away from you, and you were forced to use mouse clicks instead.)

Could you advise how to install Compiz Config Settings Manager? I ran:

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apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager -t wheezy


but it returned:

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E: Package 'compizconfig-settings-manager' has no installation candidate


Again, thank you for this thread - I was starting to tear my hair out.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby stevepusser » 2013-10-08 15:48

Hmmm--here's the versions that are currently in snapshots: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/ccsm/
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby kmathern » 2013-10-08 16:15

reset042 wrote:...Could you advise how to install Compiz Config Settings Manager? I ran:

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apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager -t wheezy


but it returned:

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E: Package 'compizconfig-settings-manager' has no installation candidate

In my instructions I suggested you use a snapshot from 2012-06-18. I chose that date because it was one day before compiz was removed from testing/wheezy in June of 2012.

But I see from http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/ccsm.html that ccsm was removed from testing on the 18th. So maybe use a snapshot from the 16th or 17th instead and it should have both the compiz and ccsm packages. Try this snapshot:
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deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120616T042917Z/ wheezy main



p.s. if the 2012-06-16 snapshot works for you, I'll edit the instructions in my earlier post to use that snapshot instead of the 2012-06-18 snapshot.
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Re: Compiz on wheezy?

Postby reset042 » 2013-10-09 04:52

Thanks kmathern! That snapshot worked a treat.

(I think it's a shame that Compiz seems to be killed off. I've told many people about Gnu/Linux and how it's free as speech... and then watched their eyes glaze over. (Maybe it's the way I tell 'em.) But whenever I show people the cube in Compiz, their eyes light up. I believe Compiz has been a great ambassador for Linux over the years, by instantly demonstrating that open source can mean better software.)

Can anyone point me in the direction of a package for Emerald? I think Emerald was never in Debian's repos, or was it?

Thanks again!
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