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Replace IceWeasel with FireFox

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txHarleyMan
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#41 Post by txHarleyMan »

Here's the bottom line, dean:

I have been a developer for 26 years; 17 of these years are with Unix systems running congruent with DG mini's. My job here is not to prove anything, but to ~bump~ folks in the right direction. Once the bump has been received, it is up to /you/ to decide for yourself - research the subject and draw your own conclusions or rant and rave. I will grant you that Debian is 100x easier to install now ( since Sarge, I believe ), but if you want Debian as your production system, you will have to read and learn. I dont know everything about Debian. Not even close, but I will ask. And if I get no response, I will research the subject a lil harder until I do find the answer. And I always do.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~awb/linux.history.html
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#42 Post by MeanDean »

txHarleyMan wrote:Here's the bottom line, dean:

I have been a developer for 26 years; 17 of these years are with Unix systems running congruent with DG mini's. My job here is not to prove anything, but to ~bump~ folks in the right direction. Once the bump has been received, it is up to /you/ to decide for yourself - research the subject and draw your own conclusions or rant and rave. I will grant you that Debian is 100x easier to install now ( since Sarge, I believe ), but if you want Debian as your production system, you will have to read and learn. I dont know everything about Debian. Not even close, but I will ask. And if I get no response, I will research the subject a lil harder until I do find the answer. And I always do.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~awb/linux.history.html
I have been a nobody for 37 years and I hope that anyone that is going to make a statement that A is easier than B can back it up with more than a quote from a book that is a couple years old. Why are we talking about installing? We should be talking about using since that is what most people spend their time doing. I have experienced many people who are computer savvy yet could not contemplate installing windows, can not even grasp the concept of having to *install* their OS since it comes with one. Installing debian with the new installer is just as easy (if not easier) as any other installer and provides a lot more flexibility as well. As far as using the system (which should be the real test of how *easy* a system is) clicking on a firefox icon in ubuntu is just as hard as clicking on the epiphany icon in debian.

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#43 Post by txHarleyMan »

ahem...
Yes, I can back it up, but I have already done /my/ homework.

That said - I give up. Another one onto the ash-heap of history.
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#44 Post by MeanDean »

Well, I am trying to do mine. Can you help? Hold my hand a bit? Give me a bump at least? I am so lost - give me some glaring examples please, something to start with, something that provides me with a starting point to discover all the discrepancy in debian.

Can you show me a system where someone can use it without reading or learning in some manner? I would be very interested in that too.

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#45 Post by txHarleyMan »

Start here:
http://www.penguin.ch/dokuwiki/doku.php/debian:intro

The owner of this site is a friend of mine in Switzerland.

Now, I never said Debian and Discrepancies together. The point I am trying to make is, in my opinion, Debian is the best out here. But if you want to learn to administer it /properly/, there is a learning curve that goes along with it.
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#46 Post by MeanDean »

txHarleyMan wrote: But if you want to learn to administer it /properly/, there is a learning curve that goes along with it.
Is this not true for any OS?

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#47 Post by txHarleyMan »

A picture -

Learning how to drive takes time and effort - less on an VW Golf
(read: Windows XP), more on a BMW 7xx (read: Apple OS X), most on
a Porsche 911 GT2 (read: Linux) ...
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#48 Post by MeanDean »

:?

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Re: Replace IceWeasel with FireFox

#49 Post by uncledonniemiller »

Problem IceWeasel does not work with most of the sites I need to use. I don't like Firefox, but it does work. even
Opera works better than IceWeasel and I like it.

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#50 Post by mardybear »

Talk about reviving an old thread
...flashback to 2007 :D

Iceweasel is essentially Firefox. Kindly provide any website links that don't work on Iceweasel. I've been using it daily for several months and have yet to find even one website that doesn't work.
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#51 Post by dasein »

I use both on different machines (along with PaleMoon, another Firefox respin), and as has been noted on here so many times before, even if they are not identical, they are all but indistinguishable.

It's true that one must occasionally spoof the UA to get a few badly crafted Websites to work, but that's hardly the fault of the browser.

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#52 Post by mardybear »

Another happy PaleMoon user - cool :)
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#53 Post by L_V »

The title: "Replace IceWeasel with FireFox".
I would have said: "Replace Iceweasel with Icecat", likely more compatible with Debian.

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#54 Post by VentGrey »

That necrobump tho.
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