"This will be the last time,schnuller wrote: And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.
I think I said that past time"
"This will be the last time,schnuller wrote: And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.
please do so. Your ways are not just childish, they border on trolling. Stop going after other users for no reason. Your behavior is something I'm more used to seeing on the Arch forums, except those people usually have some useful info hidden in there between the elitismschnuller wrote: I for one have checked quite some communication channels of linux during the last weeks and months.
It sure *has* lost it's way.
The good news: I will leave those channels to the new gang.
And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.
At least this post had some useful information.schnuller wrote:
My posts don't have reputation because i have a history ...
I doubt it ... you'll just create a new account and keep on trolling.And i will do it ... hold your breath ... ta-da: Now.
Border (?) on trolling...JLloyd13 wrote:
Your ways are not just childish, they border on trolling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]
With more than 20 posts people could know if you have got experience.
Your posts would have more reputation if you had a history in this forum.
Such myths (netinstall will install a lean system) say a lot about todays debian users.
deep down in the hacker universe ...
What is that localectl? My first guess is that systemd took it over too ? Wow: Soon i won't be able to do most easy things in Linux anymore ....
lol.
Well: i am getting old. I will get used to it. I have to.
(Iron Maiden, huh? ).
The best idea is to go back to Windows. It has wrecked your brain and you will not be able to use other operating systems anymore (I guess you are not able to use Android, google store, neither, huh?).
i doubt you are up to that level.
In 8 years you would have shown it, if you were. At least once or twice.
not that much to analyze, not much time needed. of course i know your posts for years and they've always been like that, no matter what the subject is (back then it usually was ubuntu). The question is: what do you come here for? Only to tell that the world is your oyster? Init that getting boring, ...
I had to search for what Germans call "summen". It is neither silence nor singing (neither fish nor meat).
My dictionary gave me several proposals (hum, croon, buzz, haw, fizzling), but also purr (which is said to be the sound of lazy cats, enjoying life, too. Besides the other meaning). Hence i picked that. If my dict is correct, than it hits the nail, regarding your posts.
I can tell the meaning of your post before i even read it: There are no problems. Never. Ever. Whatsoever.
I never was disappointed.
The only problem i see: You need someone else, who speaks about problems, to tell him that there are no problems. If everyone would do it like that, there would be absolute silence.
I find him rather entertaining...mardybear wrote:schnuller's recent greatest hits...how in any way does this benefit the community?
Then you either condone his behaviour or just want to stay on his good side - shame either way. Thought you worked in medicine - [edit] do no harm. Take an average weighting of the 10 most recent posts, on the whole have they been harmful or beneficial? Educational and informative? Welcoming and helpful?Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
I find him rather entertaining...
Just check out any of his many sock puppet/alt-accounts. They all read the same.mardybear wrote:Never seen a more blatant history of repeated trolling...
far too often I wonder that about the answers posted on this forum...sometimes even the questions....mardybear wrote:how in any way does this benefit
I somehow agree, but I'd still reserve the right not to help people whoJLloyd13 wrote:Debian is supposed to be the universal OS, not elitist.
Well, ignoring systemd for a second- and your odd acceptance of a user who has multiple accounts- I'm going to propose a theory. I think the reason why there are more dumb questions here are because there are more new users here, and that's not a bad thing. Today's new users are tomorrows contributors. Maybe the old timers just can't remember being new- I do, I got into Linux about 4 years ago, and yeah, I asked some pretty stupid questions. It happens. New users sometimes would rather ask their question than consult google. Is that right? No. But it's hardly criminal. The amount of learning I've done in 4 years is amazing- these new users will improve, if we don't scare them away. The idea that their learning nothing is false, just help them politely and point them towards the wiki and man pages, they'll learn. I did. More and more new users are coming into Linux- But we shouldn't feel threatened by it. I'm not someone who cares about all the market share crap- I'm happy with it as a niche, doesn't mean we need to be jerks to new users.mor wrote: Nadir is trying to give voice, admittedly in a kinda fucked up way, to a series of preoccupations that go far beyond the putative elitism often associated with old school *nixers and debianists.
We may not like the way he is telling it and we may disagree on the fact it is a real issue, but it is undeniable that the level of questions and answers you read on the various channels of our "linux" world is on a free fall.
He's not talking "in the last months", not even the last few years and it certainly isn't because of systemd (although it is easily the proverbial last straw).
The decline happened slowly but steadily in the last decade at least, and was inevitable with the increased use of the various linux based systems.
Some (well, quite a few good ones actually) are genuinely concerned that what they lived as a great passion about something, is gonna get lost in a race to clock beans as a measure of greatness.
A good response is saying "Iceweasel is the same thing, also next time use google/wiki/man pages." what schnuller does is not that. He doesn't help. He doesn't direct them towards documentation. He says things like this:Many have lost interest in sharing with us what they know exactly because of this. Not all those who know stuff have gone away, but we're definitely shorthanded, and it is not by covering the umpteenth "how to install the real firefox" or "I am stuck with a black screen after upgrade" threads that this is still a place of learning.
Nadir is simply trying to call the community up on the fact that we're no longer learning stuff, we're mostly just patting each others' backs for being users of one distro.
Could he have been less assholish about it?
Of course, but he's who he is and even in the face of how he acts, to put him in the troll category is just shortsighted.
Now, can you go beyond that?
Bye
That is crap. That is not helpful or useful in the slightest. It is directly antagonistic, not just getting on nerves- it really is pretty much trolling.The best idea is to go back to Windows. It has wrecked your brain and you will not be able to use other operating systems anymore (I guess you are not able to use Android, google store, neither, huh?).
In a way what I was trying to tell you is that you don't know what he does.JLloyd13 wrote:" what schnuller does is not that.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't buy it for a second. I have yet to see any evidence of him contributing anything useful on this board. I'd love some examples. I don't care what he's 'seen', it doesn't take a genius to tell when a guys just being a d*ck.For better or worse his contribution to this board is far more important and deeper than you can fathom and his behavior, although certainly debatable at times, also yields from the fact that "he's been there, he's seen things", which in his case is true.
Careful your true colours are showing through. Fail to see what your response has to do with the original post. Just another attempt to disrupt the forum and it's members.mean_dean wrote:far too often I wonder that about the answers posted on this forum...sometimes even the questions....mardybear wrote:how in any way does this benefit
Enlightened ones! Take that back, no air of elitism on the forum - my bad.icedove refuses to change from sans-serif font
Postby Ray Andrews » February 25th, 2015, 3:14 am
Enlightened ones:
A bother with icedove: I can display recieved messages in the font of my choice, but when I compose, no matter which font I select, it always pops back to sans-serif. I have 'DejaVu Sans Mono' selected for all options, but no luck when composing or replying, it's always sans-serif.
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Re: icedove refuses to change from sans-serif font
Postby mean_dean » February 25th, 2015, 3:38 am
debian version
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Re: icedove refuses to change from sans-serif font
Postby Ray Andrews » February 25th, 2015, 5:06 am
mean_dean wrote:debian version
software versions
any 3rd party sources
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testing, up to date. icedove is 31.4.0, but it's been like this for as long as I can remember. Not much to show in a screenshot, when the 'write' window opens, the font box shows 'DevaVu Sans Mono' but the instant I touch the keyboard, it pops back to 'sans-serif'. I never really cared about it until I decided to change my chosen font (I used to use sans-serif anyway).
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Re: icedove refuses to change from sans-serif font
Postby mean_dean » February 25th, 2015, 5:34 am
You can set your preferred font in preferences. Then if I just click reply and start typing then it sticks to my font but if I click around in the window then it does pop back to sans-serif but it doesnt change what I have previously typed and if I select that text then it shows my preferred font in the box.
The behavior is kind of irritating. You could file a bug report if it bugs you that much.
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Somehow, it's sad that we're still in this old man mentality where user maturity and experienceJLloyd13 wrote:Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't buy it for a second. I have yet to see any evidence of him contributing anything useful on this board. I'd love some examples. I don't care what he's 'seen', it doesn't take a genius to tell when a guys just being a d*ck.For better or worse his contribution to this board is far more important and deeper than you can fathom and his behavior, although certainly debatable at times, also yields from the fact that "he's been there, he's seen things", which in his case is true.
And, he seems to have evaporated once again- typical troll.
Oh well, you're not alone in that, maybe I'm wrong.JLloyd13 wrote:Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't buy it for a second.
I will always stand for anyone if I feel something's not right.mardybear wrote:PS - Mor your posts are always interesting but me thinks you would probably find a way to defend the actions of a drunk driver, speeding through a school zone with a beer in one hand, cell in the other and three unstrapped kids in the back seat.
I understand how you may have got that message but it was not what I meant.thanatos_incarnate wrote:Somehow, it's sad that we're still in this old man mentality where user maturity and experience
excuses abuse of other users.
yes, clearly he is providing help in a secret code only true debian users can access, I shall therefor begin a life of prayer to seek this new level of enlightenment from Nadir/schnuller our great grand master.mor wrote: As I said, you need to read between the lines, think about what he said in a broader sense, there's a bigger picture underneath.