Well, you are exaggerating a bit.JLloyd13 wrote:yes, clearly he is providing help in a secret code only true debian users can access, I shall therefor begin a life of prayer to seek this new level of enlightenment from Nadir/schnuller our great grand master.
What I was saying is just that he is not what he seems, not that he is the wise man on the mountain.
The reason why I am saying all this is because even though I see most things differently from him, I have personally benefited from reading his crap and locking horns with him a few times. I value people that can challenge my ideas and push me to make them better, and by giving him a chance I was able to see a different point of view in many matters, which I am glad for.
But I understand not all feel the same way about this so I don't expect you to trust me or even listen to me.
I for one don't agree with his often relinquishing philosophy and overall pessimistic attitude, moreover I don't share his (and not just his) concern with the way things are going but exactly because of this I'm happy to have someone like him that keeps me in check.
I think it is not wise to just dismiss what he is doing as trollish, because it is not the product of the isolated sense of disaffection of a grumpy user: behind nadir there is a big chunk of users who are definitely loosing touch and feel (when they haven't already) with the community at large.
This is not just a matter of generational change with newer enthusiast people taking the place of older cranky ones.
The "linux" world you are living in now, despite all the commixtures that users like Nadir are concerned with, is still the fruit of the old school approach, attitude and philosophy and although I don't want to say change is either good or bad, I am going to say that change is gonna be different, and the very thing that it still is now (and that you too like) is changing in a way that may well be something that you too don't like anymore.
Keep in mind that aside from any generalization that can be done about things changing over time, the very nature of the "linux" world is rooted in certain values and ideologies that may well just not be priorities at all with the new wave. The self reliance and natural inquisitiveness of the order of early users may just be replaced by the carelessness of all those who washed on "linux" shore to run away from licenses' fees and viruses rather than from curiosity and eagerness to learn. The importance of software freedom accompanied by all the sacrifices that need to be made to comply, may as well be supplanted by the convenience of having things that "just work". It may all blur into a Google Play Market kind of free.
However exaggerated they may be both in nature and in the way they can be presented, such concerns are very important, and if you have the slightest doubt that indulging someone like nadir may be beneficial, then think about it. Or don't.
There is a trade off of course, you can't argue with users who obstinate into being hostile, but Nadir, although may seem at first, is not that kind. That's what I wanted to say.
Bye
(honest, I'm not pulling your leg)