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Flightgear scrapped my graphics

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Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#1 Post by Steve Ford »

Hi, I have installed flightgear recently. As well I found the q button to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie. Lucky me. However, I got rid of flight gear again cuz it scrapped my graphics.

Has someone encounterd graphics issues after the installation of flightgear and can enlighten me on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: Flightgear crapped my graphics

#2 Post by dilberts_left_nut »

Steve Ford wrote:As well I found the q button to upgrade from Whezzy to Jessie.
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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#3 Post by Steve Ford »

This was "THE" Debian Linux secret. I guess.

However, the graphics wash on the screen while I'm scrolling or some images are building up.

Steve

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#4 Post by thanatos_incarnate »

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#5 Post by stevepusser »

Exactly how did you install flightgear?

And what the heck is the "q" button?
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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#6 Post by Steve Ford »

Hello,

how exactly did I install flight gear?

sudo apt-get install flightgear
and then
sudo apt-get remove flightgear

I think. I then upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie. However, the upgrade didn't fix the graphics issues.

I'm pretty new to Debian Linux. Whatever, on Wheezy you need to kind of escape amidst the upgrade procedure

apt-get upgrade

with the 'q' (quit) key on your keyboard to finally upgrade to Jessie.

Steve

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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#7 Post by fireExit »

Steve Ford wrote:how exactly did I install flight gear?

sudo apt-get install flightgear
and then
sudo apt-get remove flightgear
Steve Ford wrote:I think. I then upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie. However, the upgrade didn't fix the graphics issues.
those 2 statements don't add up:
- flightgear is not part of the wheezy release;
- you either grab it from a PPA or from another debian release.
In any of those scenarios you should read Don't Break Debian
Steve Ford wrote:on Wheezy you need to kind of escape amidst the upgrade procedure

apt-get upgrade

with the 'q' (quit) key on your keyboard to finally upgrade to Jessie.
it looks like you missed some steps
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes
[read chapter 4 of the relevant arch]

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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#8 Post by GarryRicketson »

by fireExit »those 2 statements don't add up:
- flightgear is not part of the wheezy release;
Actually it is available in the wheezy repos, but is called FGO,
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/games/fgo

However some packages that worked for Wheezy, have not yet been
updated, to run in Jessie, as far as I know, those are not available in the
repos for Jessie

Agreed the OP should read the "Don't break Debian" though,...I do not know if
"FGO", (flight gear) is available for Jessie, the current stable version, if it is not, it
would not upgrade correctly, when they upgraded to Jessie.
Review the release notes, as suggested by fireexit.
This thing about the "Q" button, still is a mystery, but one thing for sure, if the OP is trying
to run the Wheezy version of FGO. on Jessie, it would not work, and could have caused
some damage.

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#9 Post by fireExit »

GarryRicketson wrote: Actually it is available in the wheezy repos, but is called FGO,
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/games/fgo
FGO != flightgear
also from the page you linked
rec: flightgear (>= 2.0.0)
Package not available

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#10 Post by vinnywright »

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vinny@debian:~$ apt search flightgear
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
fgfs-aircraft-base/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear aircraft data - transitional dummy package

fgfs-base/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear base data - transitional dummy package

fgfs-models-base/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear models data - transitional dummy package

fgfs-scenery-base/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear scenery data - transitional dummy package

fgo/stable 1.5.2-1 all
  simple graphical launcher for FlightGear

fgrun/stable 3.0.0-2 amd64
  graphical frontend for running FlightGear

flightgear/stable 3.0.0-5 amd64
  Flight Gear Flight Simulator

flightgear-data-ai/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear Flight Simulator -- standard AI data

flightgear-data-aircrafts/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear Flight Simulator -- standard aircraft

flightgear-data-all/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear Flight Simulator - virtual package

flightgear-data-base/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear Flight Simulator -- base files

flightgear-data-models/stable 3.0.0-3 all
  FlightGear Flight Simulator -- standard models
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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#11 Post by Steve Ford »

How do I fix this? Can I safely revert to Wheezy somehow?

Steve

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#12 Post by GarryRicketson »

There might be a better solution, but I use a different partition, one for Debian 8 (jessie) another
for Debian Wheezy 7.8, also 2 other partitions, for some other distros I work with, but that does
not matter much.
If you still have a Wheezy ISO, that might be the easiest thing to do, resize the partition, make a new one for wheezy, install it.

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#13 Post by WeLoveDebian »

FlightGear used to be good. Now it's just garbage, unoptimized code, poor performance and development. What can one expect from developers who say "yeah we have 16/32 GB of RAM so we're coding FG to use that. We don't care how much RAM you've got, FG is our product"? Yeah, I'm guessing they don't know what kind of people use a FREE flight simulator the most.

Go for X-Plane 10, it's by far the best flight simulator for home/business consumers. You can download the Free demo to test it out: you'll be surprised ;)

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#14 Post by stevepusser »

Steve Ford wrote:How do I fix this? Can I safely revert to Wheezy somehow?

Steve
It's hard to say--you say you hit "q" for quit during the upgrade, and did not say how you attempted to install FG on Wheezy or Jessie. We have no way of knowing just how your system is broken.
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#15 Post by Steve Ford »

I actually first installed Flight Gear. Then I noticed FG was responding slowly. Therefore, I removed FG. again. After that, I upgraded to Jessie. To upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie you need to press q amids the installation procedure. This does not quit the upgrade but the first part of it. After you have had pressed q the upgrade has been processing normally.

If you don't quit, the upgrade isn't installed (q quits all of the text of acknowledgements ). On my pc right now, Jessie is installed as an upgrade not from CD.

Steve
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#16 Post by stevepusser »

This begs the question: Since Flightgear (Debian used to call it fgfs) is not in the Wheezy repositories, how did you install it? Going outside the repositories can break your system if you or the packager are not careful.
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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#17 Post by Steve Ford »

Hi Steve,

I answered this question in a previous post.

Steve

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#18 Post by millpond »

If you are using an older machine, going from Wheezy to Jesse could putz things up becuase the Jessie video drivers removed 80,000 lines of code dealing with older video drivers such as the rv350.

Also: be wary of messing with systemd. It includes systemd-login which has a grub hook that will somehow screw up video if disabled, or missing.

Siwtch to the Vesa drivers from I believe nvidia-nouveau until you can get the 3d stuff sorted out.

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#19 Post by stevepusser »

Steve Ford wrote:Hi Steve,

I answered this question in a previous post.

Steve
Not really:

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sudo apt-get install flightgear
and then
sudo apt-get remove flightgear
This will not work in Wheezy unless you added some outside repositories that include flightgear. Please tell us exactly and completely what you did to get flightgear to show up in the APT system.
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Re: Flightgear scrapped my graphics

#20 Post by Steve Ford »

Hi,

I do not remember this precisely. Well, I simply was trying some lines of input code a few times. However, not very fancy commands had to be used to install and to remove flight gear.

Anyway, the program started and ran, but, endless slowly.

Steve

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