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deb-multimedia.org shut down?

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deb-multimedia.org shut down?

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I tried to run an update and found all references to deb-multimedia returning nothing and it actually froze my synaptic update long enough to get my attention.
I went to the website; www.deb-multimedia.org and found a blank page, searching for deb-multimedia led me to an domain name seller (though I did not follow the redirect on the page from there)

Is that it? do we need to rework all of our precariously balanced multi-media structures now?
I've been running Jessie, with Jack-audio (for jack specific audio editing programs), NO pulseaudio (what a damned hassle the pulse-predators have made That!), NVidia CUDA and various auxiliaries for Blender AVI, video editing, and 3D Modeling,
and wine stitched into all that, from http://liquorix.net/ .

Anybody know anything about this? Has deb-multimedia.org posted anything here? (I do hope they are alright).
I've searched the forum for deb-multimedia and found no reference to a shutdown.

Thanks for any info, Dan
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#3 Post by arochester »

@H-O-A-S

On the link you give click on http://www.deb.multimedia.org

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#4 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

^ Oh yeah, silly me.

That's not good...
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#5 Post by Dan158 »

http://www.deb-multimedia.org is redirected now to http://www.deb.multimedia.org (notice the dot instead of the dash) and is a domain name selling add.
because of that the 'is it up' site gives a false read saying that it is up.

good link though, -> ( http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ ), I'm saving that, thank you.
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#7 Post by dasein »

Damn. Now I'll have to compile handbrake from source. :sad:

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#8 Post by dilberts_left_nut »

dasein wrote:Damn. Now I'll have to compile handbrake from source. :sad:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw ... ection=all
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dilberts_left_nut wrote:
dasein wrote:Damn. Now I'll have to compile handbrake from source. :sad:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw ... ection=all
Oh cool! (Shows how long it's been since I installed handbrake, huh?) :oops:

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#10 Post by stevepusser »

It's back up.
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#11 Post by yadidw »

It was down long enough that I found out I can live without it, and have removed it entirely from my system.

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#12 Post by No_windows »

yadidw wrote:It was down long enough that I found out I can live without it, and have removed it entirely from my system.
It was down for what?.... a day? Why would you remove it from your system because of that? I have a file from it, but it's commented out most of the time. I'm not going to get rid of it because they had a server issue.

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#13 Post by stevepusser »

You can avoid using it to get libdvdcss2 by using libdvd-pkg from upstream to autobuild your own package. These is also apparently fully legal in the US. Being just a script, the upstream version is safe to install in Jessie or Wheezy.
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#14 Post by thanatos_incarnate »

stevepusser wrote:These is also apparently fully legal in the US.
Sadly, because just paying for the device that can play DVD videos is so cheap. "Real people" apparently have to pay for the codecs as well.
But just in case you want to be on the safe side, there _are_ legal DVD codecs for Linux:
http://www.oneplaydirect.com/

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#15 Post by stevepusser »

I'm fairly sure that this workaround wouldn't be in the repo if it wasn't fully legal, in Debian's opinion.
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stevepusser wrote:I'm fairly sure that this workaround wouldn't be in the repo if it wasn't fully legal, in Debian's opinion.
IANAL, but I suspect that it's not just opinion. The DMCA criminalizes possession of any tool capable of circumventing copy-protection, including libdvdcss2. But there is a viable distinction to be made between "the tool" (libdvdcss2) and a tool that can be used to create "the tool" (the build script).

Mind you, if you live in the USA, once you run the script (and thus are in possession of an actual libdvdcss2 binary), you are in direct violation of the DMCA.

From the inanity department: under the most draconian interpretation of the DMCA, at least one prime number is "illegal." (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime for more.)

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#17 Post by thanatos_incarnate »

Yeah, it depends on the country, so there usually is just a script or wiki entry to get libdvdcss.
This way it's your decision and not the distro's. It's a good compromise.

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#18 Post by FuzzyToothpaste »

stevepusser wrote:I'm fairly sure that this workaround wouldn't be in the repo if it wasn't fully legal, in Debian's opinion.
Well, it's in contrib because it may be illegal in some countries, but the script itself is completely legal. In the United States, it is legal to use libdvdcss to play your own media. Also, libdvdcss is developed by VideoLAN in France, which makes legally challenging them more difficult anyway.

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