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my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
My usb stick with Debian only loads from the usb hub it's crazy.
I just tried putting the usb stick onto a usb3 port in my desktop and also on a usb2 port even the one where the usb hub is connected to and it wont' load!. Same initramfs prompt happens as when connected on the laptop usb ports.
I have no words. Anybody knows why? the usb hub has usb2 speeds so is not that the stick is under usb1.1 emulation.
I just tried putting the usb stick onto a usb3 port in my desktop and also on a usb2 port even the one where the usb hub is connected to and it wont' load!. Same initramfs prompt happens as when connected on the laptop usb ports.
I have no words. Anybody knows why? the usb hub has usb2 speeds so is not that the stick is under usb1.1 emulation.
Last edited by ELDebiano on 2015-11-05 10:09, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: my usb stick installation only boots from a usb2 hub
Do not cross-post. Read http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10653
Please mention that you also ask the same question on another thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 56#p591271
Please mention that you also ask the same question on another thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 56#p591271
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Re: my usb stick installation only boots from a usb2 hub
I dare anyone to install and load successfully Debian from a usb3 stick.
If you do that and it works please tell me how you did it, I think that's my root of my problems.
If you do that and it works please tell me how you did it, I think that's my root of my problems.
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Re: my usb stick installation only boots from a usb2 hub
I have a PC with an USB3 card, thus USB3 ports. I had an USB3-enabled USB-HDD, but it was stolen.ELDebiano wrote:I dare anyone to install and load successfully Debian from a usb3 stick.
I succeeded in booting ubuntu installed on a partition in the USB3-enabled USB-HDD connected to the USB3 ports on the PC long time ago by adding correct modules (including maybe xhci_hcd) to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and executing "update-initramfs -u".
If I get a USB3-enabled USB-HDD, I will try similaly, but I cannot now.
P.S. I have read your post in http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 60#p591660 on the other thread.
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Re: my usb stick installation only boots from a usb2 hub
try it with a usb 3.0 thumb drive as drivers may be different then when using a usb 3.0 HD.kiyop wrote:I have a PC with an USB3 card, thus USB3 ports. I had an USB3-enabled USB-HDD, but it was stolen.ELDebiano wrote:I dare anyone to install and load successfully Debian from a usb3 stick.
I succeeded in booting ubuntu installed on a partition in the USB3-enabled USB-HDD connected to the USB3 ports on the PC long time ago by adding correct modules (including maybe xhci_hcd) to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and executing "update-initramfs -u".
If I get a USB3-enabled USB-HDD, I will try similaly, but I cannot now.
and use Debian the same version I am using, I think a new version of debian has come out I will post soon if it can boot from usb3 and usb2 ports when the usb 3.0 thumb drive is directly connected. By the way I am using a sankdisk.
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I forget what you wrote around 2 months ago.
Do you have another debian installed onto another media than the usb3 stick?
If you have, connect the media with a port different from the usb3 port. Try booting the debian. If the debian boots correctly, execute
Then connect the usb3 stick on the usb3 port and try mounting a partition in the usb3 stick.
If you can mount it, execute
and post the results.
The results may involve modules relevant to recognition of the usb3 port.
Power off and boot the debian in the usb3 stick connected to usb port different from the usb3 port.
Add the modules into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and execute with root-privilege
and shutdown the PC.
Remove the media which have booted debian and confirm that the usb3 stick is connected on the usb3 port and try booting.
Do you have another debian installed onto another media than the usb3 stick?
If you have, connect the media with a port different from the usb3 port. Try booting the debian. If the debian boots correctly, execute
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lsmod > modules_before
If you can mount it, execute
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lsmod > modules_after
diff modules_before modules_after
The results may involve modules relevant to recognition of the usb3 port.
Power off and boot the debian in the usb3 stick connected to usb port different from the usb3 port.
Add the modules into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and execute with root-privilege
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update-initramfs -u
Remove the media which have booted debian and confirm that the usb3 stick is connected on the usb3 port and try booting.
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
Thanks, I'll try this when I get Debian installed onto a usb2 stick.kiyop wrote: Remove the media which have booted debian and confirm that the usb3 stick is connected on the usb3 port and try booting.
By the way I installed the newer debian 8.2 on the usb3 flash drive but it still didn't boot when connected directly. I think is their fault but I'm not an expert.
Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I rankiyop wrote:I forget what you wrote around 2 months ago.
Do you have another debian installed onto another media than the usb3 stick?
If you have, connect the media with a port different from the usb3 port. Try booting the debian. If the debian boots correctly, executeThen connect the usb3 stick on the usb3 port and try mounting a partition in the usb3 stick.Code: Select all
lsmod > modules_before
If you can mount it, executeand post the results.Code: Select all
lsmod > modules_after diff modules_before modules_after
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lsmod > modules_before
Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
It won't return any result 'on the screen'. Instead, it will redirect the output (due to '>') to a file named "modules_before" located in your current working directory (in your terminal).ELDebiano wrote:I ranfrom a run of installed debian 8.2 on a usb2 stick as user as sudo and as root and all 3 didn't return any result, is as if I didn't type any command. Can you confirm those commands work? I'm really getting into this again.Code: Select all
lsmod > modules_before
The next command will do the same, redirecting the outputs to a different file.
The third command will compare the two files and will show the difference between the two. Only this time you'll get some output on the screen (and if you wish, you can redirect that output to a file too, by appending " > file_name" to the last command).
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
To v&n,
Thanks for explaining what I wanted to do.
Thanks for explaining what I wanted to do.
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I did the first part.kiyop wrote: Then connect the usb3 stick on the usb3 port and try mounting a partition in the usb3 stick.
If you can mount it, executeCode: Select all
lsmod > modules_after diff modules_before modules_after
Now the part where I have to mount a partition on the initramfs i can't do it, blkid can not see the usb3 stick or its partitions only the usb2 stick partitions. I loaded from the usb3 stick grub.
What now?
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
Do not try to execute the commands in initramfs.ELDebiano wrote:Now the part where I have to mount a partition on the initramfs i can't do it, blkid can not see the usb3 stick or its partitions only the usb2 stick partitions. I loaded from the usb3 stick.
Boot a debian (not initramfs) and execute the commands, as I asked at:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 68#p598490
kiyop wrote:I forget what you wrote around 2 months ago.
Do you have another debian installed onto another media than the usb3 stick?
If you have, connect the media with a port different from the usb3 port. Try booting the debian. If the debian boots correctly, execute
(snip by kiyop)
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I can't boot usb3 flash drive from a usb3 port unless I use the usb2hub that's why I didn't execute the commands in debian. Do you want me to boot the usb3 flash drive from the usb2hub and execute those commands? and do you want me to use a usb2 or usb3 port? for the hub.kiyop wrote:Do not try to execute the commands in initramfs.ELDebiano wrote:Now the part where I have to mount a partition on the initramfs i can't do it, blkid can not see the usb3 stick or its partitions only the usb2 stick partitions. I loaded from the usb3 stick.
Boot a debian (not initramfs) and execute the commands, as I asked at:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 68#p598490
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
The content of this topic has me very confused.
From what I have understood, the original poster is trying to create Debian installation media using the aforementioned USB Flash drive, but has been unsuccessful. The machine where he is booting the USB Drive gets him past the BIOS and then finds an obstacle before getting the initial Debian Installer menu (where you can choose how to install Debian from the media).
Can anyone confirm this?
If this is the case, it would be most relevant for the original poster to include how he created the installation media.
From what I have understood, the original poster is trying to create Debian installation media using the aforementioned USB Flash drive, but has been unsuccessful. The machine where he is booting the USB Drive gets him past the BIOS and then finds an obstacle before getting the initial Debian Installer menu (where you can choose how to install Debian from the media).
Can anyone confirm this?
If this is the case, it would be most relevant for the original poster to include how he created the installation media.
Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I created the installation media just fine on a usb2 flash drive that is not an issue.swirly_cloud wrote:The content of this topic has me very confused.
From what I have understood, the original poster is trying to create Debian installation media using the aforementioned USB Flash drive, but has been unsuccessful. The machine where he is booting the USB Drive gets him past the BIOS and then finds an obstacle before getting the initial Debian Installer menu (where you can choose how to install Debian from the media).
Can anyone confirm this?
If this is the case, it would be most relevant for the original poster to include how he created the installation media.
I can't boot debian which is installed into the usb3 flash drive from the installer. It drops into a initramfs prompt for some driver reason maybe is an initramfs problem since I did everythight right. He suggested me to install debian again but on a usb2 flash drive and yes I can boot from there.
Apparently Debian can't boot from usb3 flash drives at least by default is what the problem is.
Oh and I can boot from usb3 flash drive but only when using the usb2 hub so go figure :/
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
Please drop the generalisations. Debian can boot from some usb 3.x flash drives at the very least for the purpose of installing the system on another storage device.I created the installation media just fine on a usb2 flash drive that is not an issue.
I can't boot debian which is installed into the usb3 flash drive from the installer. It drops into a initramfs prompt for some driver reason maybe is an initramfs problem since I did everythight right. He suggested me to install debian again but on a usb2 flash drive and yes I can boot from there.
Apparently Debian can't boot from usb3 flash drives at least by default is what the problem is.
Oh and I can boot from usb3 flash drive but only when using the usb2 hub so go figure :/
You are just accepting that you have done everything correctly without even explaining how. You are killing your own topic. If you want people to help you out, it would help to include error messages, logs and whatever procedure you have used to install Debian on a flash drive.
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
Why not understanding correctly what I mean?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 89#p598490
Furthermoe,
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 17#p588629
Connect the USB2 stick onto the USB2 port on the problematic PC.
Boot the debian installed on the USB2 stick.
Execute
Then, connect the USB3 stick with installed debian to the USB3 port of the problematic PC.
Try to mount the partition of the USB3 stick.
For example, execute
to check if the USB3 stick is recognized by the debian or not.
If it is not recognized, execute
to know if there is error message on the USB3 stick.
If it is recognized, try to mount by executing
Replace "X" and "Y" to the proper values.
Execute
to know if the partition in the USB3 stick is correctly mounted or not.
If it is mounted, execute
and post the results.
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 89#p598490
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 89#p601023kiyop wrote:Do you have another debian installed onto another media than the usb3 stick?
If you have, connect the media with a port different from the usb3 port. Try booting the debian. If the debian boots correctly, execute
(snip by kiyop)
So, you have an USB2 stick with installed debian 8.2, don't you?ELDebiano wrote:from a run of installed debian 8.2 on a usb2 stick
Furthermoe,
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 17#p588629
So, you have a live DVDRW with hybrid live cd of debian 8.1 gnome, don't you?ELDebiano wrote:I burned a live dvdrw with the hybrid live cd of debian 8.1 gnome and installed Debian onto the 32gb usb stick like this
Connect the USB2 stick onto the USB2 port on the problematic PC.
Boot the debian installed on the USB2 stick.
Execute
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lsmod > modules_before
Try to mount the partition of the USB3 stick.
For example, execute
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blkid
lsblk
If it is not recognized, execute
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dmesg
If it is recognized, try to mount by executing
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mount -t auto /dev/sdXY /mnt -o rw
Execute
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mount
df
If it is mounted, execute
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lsmod > modules_after
diff modules_before modules_after
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
I think I can boot Debian from a usb3 flash drive as an installer medium but I don't care about that, yes I didn't include error messages or things like that intensively because I posted another thread about this 2 months ago that has all those details.swirly_cloud wrote:Please drop the generalisations. Debian can boot from some usb 3.x flash drives at the very least for the purpose of installing the system on another storage device.I created the installation media just fine on a usb2 flash drive that is not an issue.
I can't boot debian which is installed into the usb3 flash drive from the installer. It drops into a initramfs prompt for some driver reason maybe is an initramfs problem since I did everythight right. He suggested me to install debian again but on a usb2 flash drive and yes I can boot from there.
Apparently Debian can't boot from usb3 flash drives at least by default is what the problem is.
Oh and I can boot from usb3 flash drive but only when using the usb2 hub so go figure :/
You are just accepting that you have done everything correctly without even explaining how. You are killing your own topic. If you want people to help you out, it would help to include error messages, logs and whatever procedure you have used to install Debian on a flash drive.
Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
No is not recognized and I get the initramfs prompt that you already know. It shows:kiyop wrote: If it is not recognized, executeto know if there is error message on the USB3 stick.Code: Select all
dmesg
xhci_hcd command completion event does not match command.
Gave up waiting for root device.
/dev/disk/root uuid does not exist
modprobe: module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep
/bin/sh: cant acces tty; job control turned off
And then initramfs prompt.
Remember im on 8.2 now
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Re: my usb 3.0 stick only boots from a usb2 hub
One of my debian jessie uses kernel 3.16.0-4-amd64.ELDebiano wrote:xhci_hcd command completion event does not match command.
Gave up waiting for root device.
/dev/disk/root uuid does not exist
modprobe: module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep
It has
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-pci.ko
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/host/xhci-hcd.ko
but it doesn't have
echi-orion.ko
Connect the USB3 flash to the USB hub on USB2 port of the problematic PC.
Boot the debian on the USB3 flash.
Get root privilege.
Execute
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find /lib/modules -iname *hci*.ko
If xhci-hcd.ko and ehci-hcd.ko and ehci-pci.ko exist, execute
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echo "xhci_hcd
ehci_hcd
ehci_pci" >> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
update-initramfs -u -k all
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