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What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Surprised no-one mentioned Seamonkey.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Beat me to it. Seamonkey here and dwb and fifth-browser are worth a shout.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
ANSWER: Firefox/Iceweasel alternatives!edbarx wrote:Since, the last policy changes by the firefox developer team, their famous browser and its functional replica, iceweasel, are expected as some threads on these fora explained, to require more powerful computers, I am creating this thread to discuss what alternative browsers exist, if any at all. Those who don't have high end hardware 'may' start to experience drops in performance of their favourite browser.
As my hardware is NOT the best on the planet boasting of eight or ten cores and my RAM is only a measly 2 GB, I am expecting that my long use of iceweasel may soon come to an end.
The crucial quesiton is: which existent browsers can effectively replace iceweasel for hardware that is not so recent?
Palemoon -- If CPU & RAM are your main concerns, this browser is the #1 answer.
Tor Browser Bundle [TBB] -- It's a good idea to have this as a secondary browser for times that you need more privacy AND security than what Firefox, Iceweasel, or Palemoon can offer. And since the number of Tor users has increase in recent years, it's a lot faster than Jondofox.
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
After loading my usual security and privacy extensions Pale Moon doesn't seem to be any faster than Iceweasel. That's always the rub. Simple software is always faster. It is features that slow us down. As far as I can tell, the main advantage of Pale Moon is that one does not have to use the Australus theme.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
I have the same experience on my new machine, but Pale Moon does help on my old netbook. However, even the leanest browser can't save you from javascript bullshit, so I just changed my browsing habits. NoScript, uBlock Origin and a custom hosts file are shielding me from invasive content. On js heavy websites I have to use I try to open the mobile version. It mostly does the same thing and takes much less resources. I almost never watch online video with the browser, as mostly either mpv or youtube-dl will do the trick and give me much better playback anyway.Bulkley wrote:After loading my usual security and privacy extensions Pale Moon doesn't seem to be any faster than Iceweasel. That's always the rub. Simple software is always faster. It is features that slow us down. As far as I can tell, the main advantage of Pale Moon is that one does not have to use the Australus theme.
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
[quote="thanatos_incarnate"]However, even the leanest browser can't save you from javascript bullshit . . . /quote]
I remember using Gopher to browse back when I had a 9.6k dial-up modem. It took no longer to reach around the globe than it does now. The difference is that, prior to the WWW and all its junk, content was mostly text.
I remember using Gopher to browse back when I had a 9.6k dial-up modem. It took no longer to reach around the globe than it does now. The difference is that, prior to the WWW and all its junk, content was mostly text.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
We have a built-from-source Pale Moon in the MEPIS and MX 15 repository, but our build configuration had to be approved by the Pale Moon developer in order to use the name. I'm pretty sure Debian could add the package, but would want to change the name to "New Moon" or something like that in order to have the freedom to change any build configuration.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Hey, even in the Web's early days, content was mostly... well, content.Bulkley wrote:...prior to the WWW and all its junk, content was mostly text.
These days, the vast majority of bytes pumped out via the Web is surveillance, and content is more like an afterthought.
Sorry. I'm ranting.
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
So am I. You are right.dasein wrote:Hey, even in the Web's early days, content was mostly... well, content.Bulkley wrote:...prior to the WWW and all its junk, content was mostly text.
These days, the vast majority of bytes pumped out via the Web is surveillance, and content is more like an afterthought.
Sorry. I'm ranting.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
It's not a fair argument, my professional opinion of course. I say that because most of my add-ons/extensions (except for NoScript) for Firefox can not be install on Pale Moon. And from user experience, too many add-ons/extensions can slow down a web browser, hence why Firefox is slower on my 14-year-old desktop than Pale Moon. But of course, this is not an issue on my 4-year-old laptop.Bulkley wrote:After loading my usual security and privacy extensions Pale Moon doesn't seem to be any faster than Iceweasel. That's always the rub. Simple software is always faster. It is features that slow us down. As far as I can tell, the main advantage of Pale Moon is that one does not have to use the Australus theme.
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
I can't speak for Bulkley, but in my case, all extensions work or they have a modified version from the Pale Moon devs. They all pretty much behave the same on my stronger machine (quadcore AMD APU with 4 GB RAM). But even on my weaker netbook with 2 GB RAM the RAM is not an issue, it's more about the processor being squeezed on javascript heavy websites.TonyVanDam wrote: It's not a fair argument
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
I'd vote for disabling every possible background service in Firefox/Iceweasel (and there's plenty of this stuff), then block almost everything except actual content (following this line of reasoning) by means of NoScript, Ublock origin, Request Policy and the likes.
Which can be quite an interesting albeit lengthy exercise.
Which can be quite an interesting albeit lengthy exercise.
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Thanks to this thread I am now enjoying epiphany. About two years ago I wanted to use epiphany as my only browser but the browser could not render some sites correctly. Today I can say I am happy and impressed. All my favorites sites come across way better than with iceweasel and I can play all my videos from those sites.
Thumbs up!
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Unfortunately you can avoid to use Iceweasel or Chromium as a main browser.
For fast reading I prefer use Chromium, but for long session with many tabs open I prefer using Iceweasel. To avoid unnecessary using of cpu I use Ublock-Origin, Ghostery, Flashblock. Then there a lot of tab suspenders, really useful indeed, that have always problem with Iceweasel but work fine with Firefox for Win. If you are using a stable probably you will be able to find someone which is still working with your version of Iceweasel.
Take a look on this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... form=Linux
I've never used, Palemoon but it appears just like a tricky Iceweasel however there is a fact, which is well known, that Firefox for Linux works better than Iceweasel due the default setup. Anyway, nobody had mentioned Icecat, I always heard that Icecat is more responsive than Firefox and thus Iceweasel.
I don't suggest Seamonkey/Iceape because even if is a light browser is not responsive at all on a crappy computer like mine.
For fast reading I prefer use Chromium, but for long session with many tabs open I prefer using Iceweasel. To avoid unnecessary using of cpu I use Ublock-Origin, Ghostery, Flashblock. Then there a lot of tab suspenders, really useful indeed, that have always problem with Iceweasel but work fine with Firefox for Win. If you are using a stable probably you will be able to find someone which is still working with your version of Iceweasel.
Take a look on this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... form=Linux
I've never used, Palemoon but it appears just like a tricky Iceweasel however there is a fact, which is well known, that Firefox for Linux works better than Iceweasel due the default setup. Anyway, nobody had mentioned Icecat, I always heard that Icecat is more responsive than Firefox and thus Iceweasel.
I don't suggest Seamonkey/Iceape because even if is a light browser is not responsive at all on a crappy computer like mine.
Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Thanks for the link, looks promising...Head_on_a_Stick wrote:http://www.brave.com/
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Re: What internet browser to replace iceweasel/firefox?
Don't know about now but really buggy.carbonfibre wrote:Conkeror
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