hacked

[bdarco]

i have been ''hacked'' for a few years, what i think that happened, now i look back on it, is that they might have installed some sort of spy ware outside the operating system.

because, after reinstalling, Windows, OS X, Linux, they always seemed to compromise my system.

most common symptoms, while i was playing a On-line game, they dropped my game items on the floor, which was a obvious symptom, but also less obvious things happened like when i booted up the system, my mouse cursor would jump, some windows stopped responding, people emailed me saying they received strange emails, i had weird posts on my face book page, appearing personal text messages on my desktop, and so on..

i tried to secure my system as much as possible, with basic things, like enable firewall with denying in and out traffic, keeping the systems up to date with the latests patches, scanned for root kits and other malicious software which i did not found, used common sense when browsing the net, with firefox and no-scipt.

i had no server running like ssh, or telnet, but always after a clean install with full erase of the hard drive, the problems kept coming back.
also i had no back ups, and at one point i did a ''netstat'' scan and found a certain IP that seemed suspicious.
i had no easy to guess passwords, however they did had physical access to my laptop for a few days, after that they did not had physical access for 2 years, but i always had the problems described.

Question:
- could it be they installed some sort of spy ware outside the operating system, that would survive a full erase of the hard drive, and reinstall of the operating system?
- is a Linux, Windows, OS X, system secure enough by default?
- how could they have access to my system?
- how can i know for sure my system is not compromised? i know about reading auth.log and netstat, but what else can u do to monitor suspicious activities?

[stevepusser]

Anything is possible if "they" had physical access to your laptop and could replaced the components; the logical and reasonable thing to do would be to ask yourself what they would get out of it that would be worth the money and time spent.

Do you see the same "things" when running from a Live optical disk session?

Steve (hoping I'm not about to catch a ride on the crazy train...)

[GarryRicketson]

by stevepusser » Steve (hoping I'm not about to catch a ride on the crazy train...)

Welcome aboard! Do you remember this thread ?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 35#p616635

The thing of it is, not only can infected sites effect the computer , it is a known fact
that that kind of stuff can and does effect the brain, as well. Our brains are very similar
to computers , more so then people realize. If we fill our brains up with garbage,
then the thought process becomes corrupted, no longer functioning properly.
In other words, "sick", broken.

If the OP is genuinely concerned about security, Why visit sites known to be infected and risky ?. (see the above link, for details)

Why you should not visit porn sites ?

This is 1 hit, but there are many more reason listed in the above search....

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-ways-vis ... y-privacy/
another:

from http://www.gq.com/story/10-reasons-why- ... ching-porn
Scientists at Cambridge University recently studied the brain scans of porn addicts and found that they looked exactly like those of drug addicts.

by bdarco »Occasionally i visit an adult site,

The dope fiends start out the same, "occasionally", then the vice starts to tighten,
they need more and more,..a vice is a vice, that is why they call those things "vices".

by bdarco » >i tried to secure my system as much as possible

That is like trying to say you tried to keep your house secure, but you invite a bunch of thieves, perverts, and all sorts of untrustworthy persons to come in side.
You might have all sorts of security cameras, etc on the out side, but if the people that you bring inside are, scuzz, What good is the security ?

Would the bank, give a bunch of bank robbers the combinations to the safe, and the keys to the doors ?
Or the same, the "occasional" drug user, they have to buy the illegal drugs somewhere, , sooner or later, when buying the drugs, since one is dealing with
criminals, sooner or later they get robbed or even killed, by another drug addict / criminal .
The dealer/ criminal, needs some money, and tells the less experienced addict/criminal:
"Oh I can get some really good stuff, but I can not take you to the dealers house, give me the money, and I will be right back",...anyone dumb enough to believe that , deserves to get robbed.
Even if the computer is secure, and protected, what about you brain ? The brain, starts telling the body to do things, the body then controls the computer, and does things. A sick corrupted mind, or "infected brain" is likely to tell the computer to
let in more sick and corrupted data, or do anything, a brain that is not functioning
correctly might do anything.

1.

by bdarco - could it be they installed some sort of spy ware outside the operating system, that would survive a full erase of the hard drive, and reinstall of the operating system?

It is possible something got put into the Bios, and when you format the HD, the bios is not affected, so it would still be there. Like wise a Bios can be "flashed" or even replaced, with out affecting the HD.

However, to format the HD or flash the bios is pointless, if you plan to continue allowing corrupted data to enter the system.
To flash the bios, do a search, key words "How to flash or replace the bios".

Post by bdarco » 2016-06-04 07:30
i have been ''hacked'' for a few years, what i think that happened, now i look back on it, is that they might have installed some sort of spy ware outside the operating system.

This reminds me of when people try to claim they are "innocent victims" , and it is because they are "possessed" with demons, or the old "the devil made me do it" excuse.
I don't know who "they" are, but unless they came to your house, and were armed, and then forced you to let them in, and install some spy ware, some where outside
of the OS, like in the bios.
You let them in, you pay the price. If "they" forced you to let them in, that is
a different thing.

The point is, you are responsible for administering your system, nobody else
can install anything, unless you let them. The same applies to what your mind
does, etc. Nobody forces you to watch, read, or in any other way "absorb" material
that corrupts the mind, and nobody forces some body to start drinking or using drugs, (well not usually), any way, people decide to do those things, every body has that right, in other words, if one wants to "corrupt" their system, they are free to
do that.

But any way, now that you realize you are "hacked", (if you really are), it is up to you to "clean house", get all the bad stuff out, and then do not let it back in again. And don't go out looking for more "scuzz', to bring into your system or house again.

- how can i know for sure my system is not compromised? i know about reading auth.log and netstat, but what else can u do to monitor suspicious activities?

Just reading "auth.log" or looking at netstat does nothing to protect your system,
monitoring it, does not do any good, by the time you see things in the logs, or netstat,
it is all ready to late, "they" are in the system.
Instead of wasting your time,polluting your brain , watching porn sites, even occasionally, try doing some real research, and reading some documentation,
at least occasionally.

what else can you do to keep a Debian system secure ?

because, after reinstalling, Windows, OS X, Linux, they always seemed to compromise my system.

Any time "windows" is installed on a HD, the HD is "compromised" windows is mal -ware,

- how could they have access to my system?

The system administrator (you ? ) gives it to them .

- is a Linux, Windows, OS X, system secure enough by default?

Actually, Linux and OS X, are secure enough by default, but if and when the administrator allows the system to be used to access corrupted sites or systems, and allows the corrupted data to enter the system, the default security is over ridden, by "PEBCAK".
No, Windows is not secure or safe at all, by default, you still have to install all sorts of ant-virus software, and Mal-ware protection software, which is contradictory to start with, being that the Windows OS itself is Mal-ware, Windows is a self destructive program, and anyone that deliberately, knowingly installs it on their HD,
is putting the entire system at risk.

Steve (hoping I'm not about to catch a ride on the crazy train...)

welcome aboard !!

[bdarco]

Thank you for your post Garry,

a while ago i felt bad about visiting those adult sites, and you are right it is 100% pure trash, your post made that clear, so i already stopped visiting those trash sites for a while now.

[dasein]

- could it be they installed some sort of spy ware outside the operating system, that would survive a full erase of the hard drive, and reinstall of the operating system?

Yes.

- is a Linux, Windows, OS X, system secure enough by default?

No.

- how could they have access to my system?

By compromising your hardware

- how can i know for sure my system is not compromised?

You can't.

These answers will not change no matter how many times nor how many different ways you ask the question. So would you please for the love of whatever you hold Sacred stop posting what is essentially the same thread over and over and over?