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Re: What kernel do you use

#81 Post by RU55EL »

Fedora update this morning...

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.7-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Fri Nov 11 15:44:18 UTC 2016
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Another kernel update today...

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.8-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue Nov 15 19:41:51 UTC 2016
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Fedora 25 is out now...but still running 24.

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[russel@k55a ~]$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 4.8.10-200.fc24.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel01.phx2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160916 (Red Hat 6.2.1-2) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Nov 21 17:55:46 UTC 2016
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Re: What kernel do you use

#82 Post by millpond »

I use 3.16 on both 32 bit single core, and 64b C2Q systems. With an ancient 4350 ATI Radeon card.

I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....
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Re: What kernel do you use

#83 Post by RU55EL »

millpond wrote:[...]
I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....
I agree. I run Debian stable on my computers, with the exception of one with Windows 10 (for when I have to use Windows), and this notebook computer with which I am checking out Fedora. Fedora seems to keep the kernel much more current when compared to Debian stable. But, I don't see the advantage. At least not with this computer (Asus K55A). It runs Debian just fine, it runs Fedora just fine. It is fun to try other operating systems occasionally.

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But, Fedora is kind of a memory hog!

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[russel@k55a ~]$ sudo memory.py
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 88.0 KiB +  18.5 KiB = 106.5 KiB	xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
200.0 KiB +  31.0 KiB = 231.0 KiB	audispd
216.0 KiB +  27.5 KiB = 243.5 KiB	mcelog
232.0 KiB +  56.5 KiB = 288.5 KiB	atd
296.0 KiB +  27.0 KiB = 323.0 KiB	agetty
404.0 KiB +  74.5 KiB = 478.5 KiB	rtkit-daemon
336.0 KiB + 143.0 KiB = 479.0 KiB	alsactl
384.0 KiB + 106.5 KiB = 490.5 KiB	sedispatch
544.0 KiB + 121.5 KiB = 665.5 KiB	auditd
656.0 KiB +  82.0 KiB = 738.0 KiB	gpg-agent
692.0 KiB +  57.5 KiB = 749.5 KiB	crond
660.0 KiB + 119.0 KiB = 779.0 KiB	chronyd
828.0 KiB +  77.5 KiB = 905.5 KiB	dconf-service
748.0 KiB + 208.5 KiB = 956.5 KiB	gconfd-2
840.0 KiB + 117.0 KiB = 957.0 KiB	gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
832.0 KiB + 168.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfsd
880.0 KiB + 155.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
960.0 KiB + 100.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gssproxy
420.0 KiB + 648.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	avahi-daemon (2)
  1.0 MiB + 107.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	gvfsd-fuse
  1.0 MiB + 213.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfsd-network
  1.0 MiB + 225.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfsd-dnssd
  1.1 MiB + 150.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
  1.2 MiB +  90.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB	bluetoothd
  1.1 MiB + 182.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB	gvfsd-trash
  1.1 MiB + 301.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
548.0 KiB + 857.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	dnsmasq (3)
  1.3 MiB + 159.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	sshd
  1.3 MiB + 136.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB	accounts-daemon
  1.2 MiB + 289.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher (2)
  1.2 MiB + 310.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	ibus-engine-simple (2)
  1.2 MiB + 360.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	ibus-dconf (2)
  1.4 MiB + 331.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	gdm-wayland-session
  1.4 MiB + 324.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	gdm-x-session
  1.6 MiB + 209.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	gdm
  1.4 MiB + 402.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	at-spi2-registryd (2)
  1.5 MiB + 368.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	upowerd
  1.4 MiB + 478.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	abrtd
  1.6 MiB + 403.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	cupsd
  1.6 MiB + 418.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB	sudo
  1.9 MiB + 335.0 KiB =   2.2 MiB	gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  1.9 MiB + 437.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	gnome-keyring-daemon
  2.3 MiB +  61.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	bash
  1.9 MiB + 484.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	gsd-printer
  2.2 MiB + 281.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udisksd
  2.1 MiB + 449.5 KiB =   2.5 MiB	systemd-logind
  2.5 MiB + 133.0 KiB =   2.6 MiB	gvfsd-metadata
  2.7 MiB +  31.0 KiB =   2.8 MiB	openvpn-expressvpn
  2.4 MiB + 436.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	colord
  2.4 MiB + 418.0 KiB =   2.8 MiB	goa-identity-service
  2.6 MiB + 576.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	wpa_supplicant
  2.6 MiB + 887.0 KiB =   3.4 MiB	tracker-miner-user-guides
  3.2 MiB + 488.0 KiB =   3.7 MiB	systemd-udevd
  3.6 MiB + 358.5 KiB =   4.0 MiB	ModemManager
  3.4 MiB + 932.5 KiB =   4.4 MiB	tracker-miner-apps
  4.2 MiB + 768.5 KiB =   5.0 MiB	gsd-locate-pointer
  4.6 MiB + 477.0 KiB =   5.1 MiB	ibus-daemon (2)
  4.0 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.1 MiB	gnome-session-binary (2)
  3.1 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   5.3 MiB	(sd-pam) (3)
  4.3 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.4 MiB	gdm-session-worker (2)
  5.2 MiB + 733.5 KiB =   6.0 MiB	dbus-daemon (5)
  4.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.1 MiB	abrt-applet
  5.6 MiB + 591.0 KiB =   6.1 MiB	seapplet
  5.0 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.2 MiB	abrt-dump-journal-oops
  3.9 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   6.7 MiB	systemd (4)
  7.1 MiB + 553.5 KiB =   7.7 MiB	NetworkManager
  6.2 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   8.4 MiB	gnome-shell-calendar-server
  8.7 MiB + 216.5 KiB =   8.9 MiB	polkitd
  6.8 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   9.1 MiB	evolution-addressbook-factory
  6.5 MiB +   2.7 MiB =   9.2 MiB	pulseaudio (2)
  6.8 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   9.3 MiB	evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess
  8.1 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   9.4 MiB	tracker-miner-fs
  7.3 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   9.4 MiB	abrt-dump-journal-xorg
  8.9 MiB +   1.8 MiB =  10.7 MiB	gnome-terminal-server
  8.9 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.7 MiB	evolution-alarm-notify
  9.1 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  11.8 MiB	evolution-calendar-factory
 11.4 MiB + 802.5 KiB =  12.2 MiB	tracker-store
  9.9 MiB +   2.6 MiB =  12.5 MiB	systemd-journald
 11.7 MiB +   2.1 MiB =  13.8 MiB	ibus-x11 (2)
 13.8 MiB + 323.0 KiB =  14.2 MiB	dhclient
 16.4 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  19.2 MiB	evolution-source-registry
 20.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  22.0 MiB	libvirtd
 18.7 MiB +   5.7 MiB =  24.5 MiB	gnome-settings-daemon (2)
 24.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  26.0 MiB	firewalld
 26.0 MiB +   2.5 MiB =  28.4 MiB	transmission-gtk
 29.2 MiB +   7.0 KiB =  29.2 MiB	expressvpnd
 33.6 MiB + 774.0 KiB =  34.3 MiB	fwupd
 33.3 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  34.8 MiB	Xwayland
 40.8 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  41.8 MiB	gvfsd-google
 43.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  45.1 MiB	goa-daemon
 37.8 MiB +  10.3 MiB =  48.0 MiB	Xorg
 43.5 MiB +  10.0 MiB =  53.5 MiB	evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess (4)
 58.4 MiB +   8.5 MiB =  66.9 MiB	nautilus
 73.8 MiB +   1.7 MiB =  75.5 MiB	gnome-software
 88.7 MiB +   6.6 MiB =  95.3 MiB	tracker-extract
 95.3 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  96.9 MiB	packagekitd
230.9 MiB +  25.2 MiB = 256.1 MiB	gnome-shell (2)
407.3 MiB +  12.5 MiB = 419.8 MiB	firefox
567.8 MiB + 121.4 MiB = 689.2 MiB	chrome (8)
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                          2.4 GiB
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Re: What kernel do you use

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Linux stevesmachine 4.8.0-8.2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.8-11~bpo8 (2016-11-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux


Just got this hot off the OBS repo build, no problems so far. I think they're still trying to improve power management for SkyLake machines, which is why I'm trying newer kernels.
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#85 Post by bester69 »

Im very very happy with Ubuntu's kernel 4.8.8 and btrfs filesystem, I've been testing it for 3 weeks or so and my computer works better than ever, so i think i will not update kernel in long time. 8)
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Re: What kernel do you use

#86 Post by obczik »

4.7.0-1-amd64 on stretch

The installation gave me 4.8.0-1, but it reported problems with Radeon and iwlwifi. These didn't seem to matter: no performance hit, but errors and warnings make me nervous.

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#87 Post by Linadian »

Yet another 4.8.x update, currently at 4.8.9, seems to be working fine. I did notice multiple simultaneous SSD/HDD I/O operations are greatly improved over older kernel branches, now simultaneous operations requests are more or less performed equally, not so much with older kernel branches. This is a very welcomed improvement. :)
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Linux version 4.8.10-1-ARCH (builduser@tobias) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160830 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 21 11:55:43 CET 2016
Back to the vanilla Arch kernel for me, I couldn't notice (or measure) any improvement from the Zen patched version :?
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4.8.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 4.8-14~bpo8 (2016-11-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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#90 Post by Jimmyfd »

On my Ubuntu Zesty I'm running kernel 4.9.0.1 which is a great kernel planning to upgrade that to 4.9 RC6 this evening

My laptop runs 4.9.rc1 haven't upgraded yet
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#91 Post by Bulkley »

Jimmyfd wrote:On my Ubuntu Zesty I'm running kernel 4.9.0.1 which is a great kernel planning to upgrade that to 4.9 RC6 this evening
Why? What is to be gained?
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#92 Post by Jimmyfd »

Not much beside better wi-fi which is some what unstable right now, at least I hope wi-fi become more stable.
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Jimmyfd wrote:Not much beside better wi-fi which is some what unstable right now, at least I hope wi-fi become more stable.
I doubt it. Wifi stability is a function of a lot of variables including hardware in your machine and in router/modems.
there are several threads on that in this forum that might be worth your time to explore.
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Linux version 4.8.12-1-ARCH (builduser@tobias) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160830 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 2 12:17:46 CET 2016
Got it on Friday, forgot to update the thread :)
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millpond wrote:I use 3.16 on both 32 bit single core, and 64b C2Q systems. With an ancient 4350 ATI Radeon card.

I would really like to know what * advantages* a newer kernel could provide on an older system.

As the system aint broke, really trying to understand reasons to fix it....
I have an older radeon board, r430, and restarting Xserver through KDM would sometimes hang, and sometimes X would not start on a cold boot, with No Screen Found, No Device Found etc. (workaround - # service restart kdm). It seems much more stable using only backported kernel 4.6

On this little Dell, the intel driver had some similar issues, so the xserver-xorg-video-intel-2016520-bpo with the 4.6 kernel has been a good fix.

I started using backports back on squeeze, it can let you maintain an older system without upgrading so often IMO. I still have a wheezy machine running the 3.16 backport that must be three years now?
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#96 Post by bester69 »

I think last LTS could be a good choice,
I was using before 4.8.8 and then 4.8.12, Now im using 4.4.34, i checked that it works better than 4.8 brach in my old pc,



My conclusion..> Dont upgrade kernel if your's version performance very well, from vesion to version i find differents behaviors as for performance, and i would say than even for stability you can find differences. So, i decided to stay in that version for long.
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#98 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Hot off the presses:

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Linux version 4.8.14-1-ARCH (builduser@heftig) (gcc version 6.2.1 20160830 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 11 01:47:53 UTC 2016
Thanks @heftig, awesome work!
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#99 Post by pylkko »

...but 4.9 was released 3 hours ago :wink:
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#100 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

^ :x

That's it, I'm switching to https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-git/

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