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lm-sensors and asus z170a motherboard

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lm-sensors and asus z170a motherboard

#1 Post by Antonut »

Hi all, glad to be here for the first time.
I just bought my new pc which has an asus z170a as motherboard. however it was not a new installation (i just made a migration of my system from old hardware to the newer one) i didn't get any problem except for the modules loaded for motherboard sensors used by lm-sensors. I have just loaded coretemp module and it shows me the right CPU temperature and nothing else. I would like to have fan speed and chipset temperature.
Here is my sensors-detect output

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Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): y
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595...                       No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors...                          No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...                            No
AMD K8 thermal sensors...                                   No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors...                   No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 15h power sensors...                             No
AMD Family 16h power sensors...                             No
Intel digital thermal sensor...                             Success!
    (driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor...                         No
VIA C7 thermal sensor...                                    No
VIA Nano thermal sensor...                                  No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): y
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               Yes
Found unknown chip with ID 0xd121
    (logical device B has address 0x290, could be sensors)
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No

Some systems (mainly servers) implement IPMI, a set of common interfaces
through which system health data may be retrieved, amongst other things.
We first try to get the information from SMBIOS. If we don't find it
there, we have to read from arbitrary I/O ports to probe for such
interfaces. This is normally safe. Do you want to scan for IPMI
interfaces? (YES/no): y
Probing for `IPMI BMC KCS' at 0xca0...                      No
Probing for `IPMI BMC SMIC' at 0xca8...                     No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no): y
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290...                   No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290...                   No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Found unknown SMBus adapter 8086:a123 at 0000:00:1f.4.
Sorry, no supported PCI bus adapters found.
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.

Next adapter: cx88[0] (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'...                                No

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.0 (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 1:00.0 (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 6 at 1:00.0 (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 7 at 1:00.0 (i2c-4)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 8 at 1:00.0 (i2c-5)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 11 at 1:00.0 (i2c-6)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): n


Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done.
Just press ENTER to continue: 

Driver `coretemp':
  * Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)

To load everything that is needed, add this to /etc/modules:
#----cut here----
# Chip drivers
coretemp
#----cut here----
If you have some drivers built into your kernel, the list above will
contain too many modules. Skip the appropriate ones!

Do you want to add these lines automatically to /etc/modules? (yes/NO)n

Unloading i2c-dev... OK
Unloading cpuid... OK
and here is the sensors output

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acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +27.8°C  (crit = +119.0°C)
temp2:        +29.8°C  (crit = +119.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +31.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +26.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +28.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +26.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +28.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
I hope someone can help me thank you in advance

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Re: lm-sensors and asus z170a motherboard

#2 Post by debiman »

maybe your motherboard doesn't supply this information?
not all do.
my sensors output looks very similar.

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#3 Post by Segfault »

My H170, custom kernel.

My config: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/IpD ... TCUZX6PGv/

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sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +28.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +26.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +26.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

nct6791-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
Vcore:                  +0.18 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:                    +1.71 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
AVCC:                   +3.41 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
+3.3V:                  +3.41 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in4:                    +1.01 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in5:                    +1.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in6:                    +1.01 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
3VSB:                   +3.26 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
Vbat:                   +3.07 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in9:                    +1.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in10:                   +0.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
in11:                   +0.95 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in12:                   +1.22 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in13:                   +1.28 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in14:                   +1.06 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
fan1:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:                  2673 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan5:                     0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan6:                     0 RPM
SYSTIN:                 +30.0°C  (high =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)  ALARM  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                 +30.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                +25.5°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:               -128.0°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                +28.0°C    sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                +22.0°C    sensor = thermistor
PECI Agent 0:           +27.5°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                 (crit = +100.0°C)
PCH_CHIP_CPU_MAX_TEMP:   +0.0°C  
PCH_CHIP_TEMP:           +0.0°C  
PCH_CPU_TEMP:            +0.0°C  
intrusion0:            ALARM
intrusion1:            ALARM
beep_enable:           disabled

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Re: lm-sensors and asus z170a motherboard

#4 Post by Antonut »

Hi,
as sensors-detect says, there is a detected sensor which has not loaded the right module

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Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Found unknown SMBus adapter 8086:a123 at 0000:00:1f.4.
Sorry, no supported PCI bus adapters found.
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.
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Of course motherboard has all sensors I need, as my first post, just fan speed and chipset temperature. However it has many more sensors I don't need them. Of course they are visible also in windows and bios, so there is just a module problem due the motherboard is new.
Here is my kernel

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3.16.0-4-amd64
Thanks for help

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#5 Post by sunrat »

Try a newer kernel from backports. Your hardware is probably newer than that kernel.
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#6 Post by Antonut »

Hi,
I suppose that a newer kernel could resolve the problem, so I will try it as soon as possible.
Thanks

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#7 Post by Antonut »

Hello,
I've tried to install a new kernel from jessie-backports but I've got some error about linux-base which must be 4 or newer but i have just 3.5 version available.
Some suggestion?

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#8 Post by debiman »

Antonut wrote:sensors-detect says, there is a detected sensor which has not loaded the right module
sensors-detect checks for hundreds, maybe even thousands of different sensors, so very meany of them are not detected.
picking out 1 line without telling us why you picked that exact line is meaningless.

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#9 Post by Antonut »

Hello thanks for reply,
I picked up that line just because is the only one that sensors-detect output recognized as an unknown sensor, but maybe it is not the right one.
The hardware is new but just since two years ago, has been released from asus, so it is not new at all. I can not believe that there are not any other solutions to show two simple values like fan speed and chipset temperature, when they are perfectly recognized by bios and by windows too.
Thanks

P.S.
I would like to test a newer kernel, because maybe lm-sensors has been updated, perhaps this can solve the issue. Any suggestion about it?

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#10 Post by Segfault »

lm_sensors are not part of kernel, it is merely a helper package. OTOH correct kernel driver is required to make your sensor useful. Obviously if the kernel was released before your hardware was manufactured it cannot support your sensor. Kernel developers are very stubborn when it comes to supporting future hardware, they just won't do it!

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No one knows which is the right module? I googled a lot about it and I got some guide but no one works for me. Who says that the right module, for asus z170a motherboard, is nct6775, who says it87... the modules are present in my kernel but after manually loads by modprobe, sensors still not showed!
Please help :oops:

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#12 Post by sunrat »

Z170 is Skylake, I think. Skylake is not really supported by the default Jessie kernel as Jessie is older than Skylake. I still think you need to install a backports kernel, and probably intel-microcode or firmware-misc-nonfree.
Antonut wrote:Hello,
I've tried to install a new kernel from jessie-backports but I've got some error about linux-base which must be 4 or newer but i have just 3.5 version available.
Some suggestion?
Jessie backports are specifically built to install newer packages in a Jessie system so this error is puzzling. It's hard to guess exactly what "some error" is though. Post exactly what command you are using to install, and exactly the error that is showing.
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#13 Post by Antonut »

Hello,
I made this

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sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list <<< "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main"
and this

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sudo apt update && sudo apt install linux-image-amd64/jessie-backports
then it asked me to install linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-amd64

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I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
 linux-image-amd64 : Dipende: linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
and when I try to manually install linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-amd64, I get this error about linux-base

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 linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 : Dipende: linux-base (>= 4.3~) ma la versione 3.5 sta per essere installata
what is going wrong?

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#14 Post by sunrat »

I see backports has linux-base (4.3~bpo8+1). Installing that should allow the kernel to be installed.
Wait for a more expert opinion whether that will break anything else.
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#15 Post by Antonut »

Hello,
I'm still waiting for some advise.
*Bump*

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#16 Post by Segfault »

Get the latest SystemResqueCD, put it in a USB stick. (I keep one in my pocket at all times, it is handy in many different situations.) Boot the alternative kernel from it - it is the newest kernel. Check out with lsmod what is loaded, use sensors-detect to determine if your sensors are supported.

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#17 Post by debiman »

kernel backporting is definitely the way to go here.
and maybe some other apps too.

i hope you figure it out. backporting a kernel is a fairly common thing and well documented.

aside:
current testing (i can never get the names straight; is it sid?) will become stable pretty soon.
it would be the best choice.
maybe you should just wait a while.

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Antonut wrote:Hello,
I'm still waiting for some advise.
*Bump*
What happens when you run this? -

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apt-get install -s -t jessie-backports linux-image-amd64 linux-base
The "-s" is for simulate so it will show what will happen when you run it without actually doing it. If it looks ok, run the same command without the "-s".
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sunrat wrote:
Antonut wrote:Hello,
I'm still waiting for some advise.
*Bump*
What happens when you run this? -

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apt-get install -s -t jessie-backports linux-image-amd64 linux-base
The "-s" is for simulate so it will show what will happen when you run it without actually doing it. If it looks ok, run the same command without the "-s".
Thanks guys,
actually I have been able to install new kernel and linux-base also.
I got some news about lm-sensors after sensors-detect. Here is the new output of sensors

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acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +27.8°C  (crit = +119.0°C)
temp2:        +29.8°C  (crit = +119.0°C)

nouveau-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
fan1:        1230 RPM
temp1:        +43.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
                       (crit = +105.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)
                       (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +50.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +27.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +50.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +26.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +28.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:        0 RPM
of course, as you can see, there still some problems. The output still not showing the values that I need...

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#20 Post by sunrat »

I have a Gigabyte H170 mobo which only shows the same sensors as yours (except nouveau). I doubt you will get any more. At least you have nouveau GPU temp as well with your new kernel.
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